after 18years and 2 months my southwest order is NOW - recommendations on shaft taper?

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I am placing my order for my Southwest this weekend. My name has finally come up.
I am reaching out to ask experiences on shaft taper... I have played with the standard taper in the past, but I am thinking of the standard pro-taper and or the pro-taper and wanted to ask for others experiences. I am excited...

thanks
Ryan
 
Southwest cues basically look alike and I have never seen any I would want, let alone wait that long for any cue.
Cudos to any willing to indulge waiting almost 2 decades for their cue build to even begin. Nothing, and I do mean nothing, is worth waiting this long when there many other cue makers building more exquisite custom cues, IMO.
 
Southwest cues basically look alike and I have never seen any I would want, let alone wait that long for any cue.
Cudos to any willing to indulge waiting almost 2 decades for their cue build to even begin. Nothing, and I do mean nothing, is worth waiting this long when there many other cue makers building more exquisite custom cues, IMO.
You do understand that giving Laurie your name doesn’t require you to forego any and all cue purchases during the waiting period?

You could even buy some artistically cluttered, precision balanced, silly ass ivory jointed cues during your wait, if you wanted to.
 
The word "wait" is doing an awful lot of work in these sentences.
I put my name on the list in 2017 but I'd hardly say I'm "waiting" for the cue.
To be honest, I forget I'm on the waitlist until threads like these pop up.
 
The word "wait" is doing an awful lot of work in these sentences.
I put my name on the list in 2017 but I'd hardly say I'm "waiting" for the cue.
To be honest, I forget I'm on the waitlist until threads like these pop up.

Same here. I don't get the "I would never wait..." crowd. You don't have to change a single thing in your life, you send an email, you're on the list. When your name comes up if you want to buy a cue you can, if you don't they'll just move on to the next person. There is almost zero investment in getting on the list, no money tied up at all.

If you don't want one, have no desire for a SW, then that makes much more sense to me than the "never wait" crowd.

I got on the list 10 years ago having never handled or seen a SW in person. Had no clue what they hit like, just their reputation. I have a history of waiting for things so this idea wasn't new to me. 10 years for a custom pocket knife, 6 years for a guitar pedal, etc. I've been on numerous lists for various hobbies over the years. The SW situation isn't exactly unique, though it is one of the more extreme ones I've personally come across as far as wait time goes.

I was really glad when my name came up for a Satin, which I had also requested a few years after originally getting on the list. I finally got to get my hands on a SW and see what one played like. They aren't cheap, even the satins, but seemed like a pretty safe buy considering what I've seen them selling for on the secondary.

As someone who has owned a few custom cues, mostly by Bob Runde but a few others too, and who plays regularly with a full Predator setup these days (K Series Classic cue with Revo shafts, BK & Air Rush).....I was prepared to be underwhelmed and sell it if I didn't like it. Especially since I've typically gravitated to traditional 4 point style cues, steel joints, etc. The SW is.....different. It just feels different. Between the shaft taper, butt taper, balance, etc....it's one of the most natural feeling cues I've ever picked up. I don't fully understand it but it really does feel great to play with and there are some shots (off the rail, over another ball, etc) where I've never had as much confidence as I do with the SW. It just kinda holds it's line during the stroke like nothing else I've played with.

I didn't sell it, but I also didn't start playing with it regularly either. Part of me wants to, I find it to be the most enjoyable cue I own to play with. But I'm also pretty used to my low deflection Revos these days and I can make some shots with that setup that I would really struggle to make with the SW without putting in a ton of time getting the feel for it's deflection characteristics. I'm not convinced some day I won't say screw it and go back to wood shafts permanently. I eventually did that with golf, gave up on most of the "game improvement" stuff and now pretty much play exclusively with a half set of players irons.
 
Interesting that you knew you wanted a SW cue 18 years ago yet you don't know your preferred shaft taper 18 years after your order? What maple taper (non-LD, non-CF) do you play with now? Have you hit a SW cue with one of the 3 stock factory shaft options (all are maple and non-LD as I understand it)? If so and that's what helped persuade you to order the cue, I would go with one of those and one that is next closest to the first option.
 
You do understand that giving Laurie your name doesn’t require you to forego any and all cue purchases during the waiting period?

You could even buy some artistically cluttered, precision balanced, silly ass ivory jointed cues during your wait, if you wanted to.
I wouldn’t signup when Jerry was at the helm after he told me he’d call me when my slot came up in 10 years.
Nope, I found a different cue maker & started enjoying a great custom cue 9 years earlier than when I could SW.
 
By the way I did buy silly ass cues…….several……I think six to be exact……..and I wouldn’t trade
one of them…..not even my Frankenstein cue……..for any SW……and I have played with SW cues
which are really nothing to write home about. It’s like the Searing legend. I don’t get why he gets so
much praise for his workmanship but then again I don’t have to. I just consider him a talented cue
maker but still very overpriced in contrast with his peers that produce equally exemplary workmanship.

Those six cues started being acquired in 2005 and it only took 11 years and I also got to play instead of
being on a wait list for a cue that does not play one tiny bit better than some of my cues. Sorry to offend
SW cue admirers but just as much as some people find my cues silly ass, I find SW cues sort of Blah and
for that price, I require, in fact I insist, the cue have curbside appeal. Obviously, my opinion is in the minority.
 
The Satins are the ones I like the most from them. 👌
I was really glad when my name came up for a Satin, which I had also requested a few years after originally getting on the list. I finally got to get my hands on a SW and see what one played like. They aren't cheap, even the satins, but seemed like a pretty safe buy considering what I've seen them selling for on the secondary.
 
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