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How do these diamond tables play so badly? vid
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Serious about what? I'm not the one who said the ball picks up speed after hitting a rail, I said it wasnt possible for that to happen.Are your rails 4" apart?
There's still time to delete this.
You can't be serious, but I think you are
I was at work 20 years ago, and it was a shop environment. My coworker whom I shot the shit with a lot, was having a bad day. I went up to him and asked “does your p….. hurt today”? He shoved the hell out of me. Ha ha ha.So nice of to have one that cares. Panties-in-a-wad run in the family? Relax, just jackin with ya. People say shit like that to me all the time so just tossed that lil grenade out there.
I think it is actually possible from a physics standpoint. What’s not possible is for it to pick up “total energy”.
If a ball is barely moving linearly, but spinning like a top, it can rebound off the rail with a greater linear speed then it went in.
Now of course that’s not what we are talking about. But if we bring physics into it, we can’t ignore this case.
Go back and read your post.
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How can a Diamond rail height vary? While I'm not sure how the 7's are built, I do know my 8' and 9's that the rails sit on top of the slate, and the 7's still have a wedge leveling system similar to the 8&9' tables, so the slate would lay on top of the wedges in a similar fashion, and the rails would still be on top of the slate. I do not see any way rail height can vary no matter the setup unless someone replaced the rail rubber with the wrong stuff. The underside of the rail's rests directly on the slate, so height will always be the same.
Correct, the Diamond 7' is just like their 9'. I bet the mechanic just fibbed to the customer to shut him up. No one is replacing cushions on diamond tables. They last forever. And that's the only way the cushion will be low. It could be high I suppose, if the installer left a mile of cloth folded under the rail.
Edit: another possibility is the mechanic modified the table, by adding shims under the rails, to try to slow down the rails. Not to correct for improperly installed too low cushions, but to rather slow down the OEM factory design.
The issue with the red labels was not the nose-height but the subrail angle. The cushion tops sloped down too much making the ball come off too hot/short. This was fixed when the blues came out. Fix can easily be done to red label models.
Also, just pointing out, that cue ball is garbage. Too heavy, further accentuating the issues
Huh?? What cue ball is 'too heavy'?? Go read the sticky Rexus31 put up on ball weights. They are all super close. Are you talking about magnetic barbox cb's? Aramith magnetic balls weigh same as standard cb's. Valley mag. balls are 6oz balls too.
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I understand all that about the sub angles, but Ronnie said the rail height needed to be adjusted as his balls were hopping and going airborne and that it was because they were installed low, then the bar readjusted them because they were low. Just pure BS, the rails lay on the slate and can't be low, they can possibly be slightly high, if a rotten installer left the cloth all bunched up on the bottom side, but can't be low.
I guess if a red label the rails can be recut, but that is not happening by a simple adjustment as far as I know.
possible wrong profile cushions were used. idk what was done there. i see what you're saying and totally agree. think that guy is full of it.
Btw, last night I played at a bar in PA called . Marty Magee's Irish Pub in Prospect Park. It was a chip tournament so I played a bunch of games on each table. It had 3 7’ diamonds. 2 red, 1 blue. Hardly any noticeable difference between them.
How do we know he didn’t put some right on it? Can’t be sure just by looking.
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Cobra didn’t fix anything. New blues still bounce like super balls.
One of our leagues has 8 Diamond blue bar boxes but with 4 1/2" pockets that are vacuumed, and balls polished for the start of every league night and for the most part they all play the same. Very consistent actually and I feel they pocket with less rejection than my 8' Diamond professional at home and I have 4 3/4 pockets. I really wish I had ordered the standard 4 1/2" pockets for mine. We are fortunate in that we have an owner that likes pool and runs a great league.
That link posted, if you go to the .5 mark and blow it up, it does look as though he has about a half tip right in it. May not have, but the picture makes it look like he did no matter how he thought he actually hit it.
"HitHrdNDraw said:
The balls that come standard with diamond 7 and 8 tables play heavier… not sure why this concept is so foreign especially if you play with both regularly.. draw and follow are easy ways to tell.. . I’ll weigh them compared to a measles if you need…."
You do know that Diamonds use regular cue balls, right? They are not magnetic or oversized, just a standard cue ball that comes with any ball set.
The balls that come standard with diamond 7 and 8 tables play heavier… not sure why this concept is so foreign especially if you play with both regularly.. draw and follow are easy ways to tell.. . I’ll weigh them compared to a measles if you need…."
You do know that Diamonds use regular cue balls, right? They are not magnetic or oversized, just a standard cue ball that comes with any ball set.
I still don't get it, you do know what we were discussing that prompted my reply, right???Go back and read your post.
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