Tip radius and accidental scooping the cue ball on draw shots
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Rounder, Dr Dave.
the stroke is what does it not the tip shape
I think you meant miscueing which may result in an intentional jump/scoop? You really should change your title and replace the word scooping with the word miscueing.
Generally, the scoop instant corresponds to when the tip CB and table are all in contact simultaneously.
We tend to hit closer to the miscue limit for draw, so tip shape can make a difference - rounder is better to avoid hitting on the tip’s edge.
pj
chgo
Rehearse the shot off to the side as it will be shootedized.
It’s not the tip shape that causes scooping.
It’s if you put your tip shaper on the floor and grind your Cue into it like starting a fire that will always produce scooping of the cue ball
it would be the tip, if it's glazed and it miscues under the ball causing it to "scoop".
in theory such a miscue would also be a foul. only ref i seen call it is marcel.
Dime radius helps but this is 90% stroke issues related. I can draw a ball with a barely curved tip.
outrider1
Registered
I've seen guys use the high bridge to draw a shot. I would lower your bridge and try it that way, works 4 me.
jnwilliams
New member
haha...I'm glad i'm not the only one who has done this....Golf's equivalent is a shank. Hitting the next shot with low spin is tough for me psychologically.
A large diameter shaft with a flat tip can prevent near-level-cue scoop shots, but it comes with disadvantages. See:
Do You agree, in 3C in general we apply 'More effect' on the CB than Pool players?
If Not, explain Yourself!
If You do, a little of 3C history.
Sang Chun Lee had the 'Flattest' tip shape I've ever seen! Like No radius.
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Accidental scooping of the cue ball when done during a draw shot is not a foul. Scooping is only a foul if you intentionally try to do it to hop over a ball. In those shots intent is everything in the classification. There is a school of thought that many miscues are fouls because the side of the ferrule or even the shaft touches the ball during it, but even at Pro tournaments that is not called on the player. It's technically a foul if you look at how the shot takes place, but practically I have never seen it called, which I think is the correct way to do it since the result of a miscue is often bad for the player shooting it anyway LOL.
This is not real? lol No, I don't think so.