Interesting Insights from Rory Mcllroy's Psych Doc

To have a coach in anything is a crutch. Since it's golf, who was Sam Snead's coach? Nobody. Who was Byron Nelson's coach? Nobody. Who was Ben Hogan's coach? Nobody. Who was Gene Sarazen's coach? Nobody.

Don't be a girly man coach lover.
🤣🤣can't believe somebody the sh** posted on here!!
 
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To have a coach in anything is a crutch. Since it's golf, who was Sam Snead's coach? Nobody. Who was Byron Nelson's coach? Nobody. Who was Ben Hogan's coach? Nobody. Who was Gene Sarazen's coach? Nobody.

Don't be a girly man coach lover.
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read on this forum in a long while 🤣 not everyone who becomes a champion is an idiot savant. why would you learn everything on your own when there are people out there that already gone through it or studied it and now can pass that info on to you? This is like saying anyone that needed a teacher to learn how to read is an idiot who needs a crutch to learn 😂

everyone do yourself a favor.. don’t compare yourself and how you learn or what equipment you play with to people who were born with natural god given ability that you weren’t. Everyone has their own journey
 
so he writes psych books and does therapy with millionaire golfers?

sounds like kindergarten level pick me up speak, i hear more profound insights from the guy at the deli
you're clueless. Rotella's book 'Golf is Not a Game of Perfect' has sold millions of copies. He is one of the top sport psychologists in the business. You may wanna book an hour. Or 20.
 
That’s the dumbest thing I’ve read on this forum in a long while 🤣 not everyone who becomes a champion is an idiot savant. why would you learn everything on your own when there are people out there that already gone through it or studied it and now can pass that info on to you? This is like saying anyone that needed a teacher to learn how to read is an idiot who needs a crutch to learn 😂

everyone do yourself a favor.. don’t compare yourself and how you learn or what equipment you play with to people who were born with natural god given ability that you weren’t. Everyone has their own journey
Ignorance in its all its glory is on full display here on a daily basis. Why be surprised?? Totally agree here. When i was playing tennis i got Tim Gallwey's book 'Inner Tennis' and it changed everything. His series of 'Inner...' books are some greatest books on one's mental approach ever written.
 
Bob Rotella has several notable golf based mental side books including " Golf is not a game of Perfect"--- His writings bring some thoughts about how to handle competition - both external and the resulting internal noise - all well worth reading.
 
Post Masters win, Bob Rotella, Rory's psych counselor had this to say -- just transpose pool where the word golf is...

"A former professor of sports psychology at the University of Virginia who has counseled golfers for more than four decades, Rotella said Tuesday that part of his strategy for improving their mental approach is to instill some helpful perspective.
“We begin with the idea that golf — by design — is a game of mistakes, and if you love the game of golf, you have to love that it’s a game of mistakes,” he said. “You remind them that other players are playing the same game, so they’re all going to make a lot of mistakes. The second part is because you are a human being, you’re going to make mistakes that you can’t believe you made, and you have to accept that.”

Lou Figueroa
Rotella has a couple of books out outline his ideas on the mental approach to golf or similar disciplines. I read one. It was o.k. Definitely not unhelpful. I liked it enough that I would not rule out reading his other books.

kollegedave
 
To have a coach in anything is a crutch. Since it's golf, who was Sam Snead's coach? Nobody. Who was Byron Nelson's coach? Nobody. Who was Ben Hogan's coach? Nobody. Who was Gene Sarazen's coach? Nobody.

Don't be a girly man coach lover.
Snead watched a presentation by Rotella. He apparently saw the value in it and supported it. Rory now has something Snead doesn’t- the career Grand Slam.
 
Well, it is a mistake I make sometimes. If I am interested in something I tend to read about it. I am not perfect about it or anything. I feel like I could better use some of the information out there. But I read and then tend to have a shelf of books on it. So I have golf and pool books. Used to play some poker and had books. I guess I assume that others who are interested read the information out there. Some don’t learn much that way, OK. But if there is info out there why wouldn’t a competitor want to avail themselves of it.
 
Nicklaus occasionally relied on Jack Grout for advice, but didn't really need it. Nobody else, other than short pitching. Nicklaus did get some advice from Phil Rodgers on that. But he didn't need psych coaching.
Yeah, Nicklaus was the best in the mental game at least until Tiger came along. It was apparent early on how strong mentally Tiger was. I would probably still give the edge to Nicklaus but those two are ahead of everyone else. The mention of Nicklaus and Rotella looks to me that it came from Nicklaus’s son who worked with Rotella. Rotella gave him questions to ask Jack. Jack couldn’t answer how he concentrated etc…. The champions often can’t explain what they do. So yeah, Jack didn’t need it and I don’t think he worked with him.

On the other hand Nicklaus did describe how he visualized shots in books. How Jack did things certainly fits with how the sports psychology books suggest works well.
 
Did we all forget that one of the (if not THE) greatest cueists of a time attributed much of his success to a sports psychology coach?

Google "Ronnie O'Sullivan Steve Peters" and you'll see a billion write-ups on how he owes so much of his legacy to his sports psychology coach.
 
I read Rotella's "Golf is not a Game of Perfect" and absolutely loved it. I would highly recommend it to any pool player struggling with his/her mental game.
 
Post Masters win, Bob Rotella, Rory's psych counselor had this to say -- just transpose pool where the word golf is...

"A former professor of sports psychology at the University of Virginia who has counseled golfers for more than four decades, Rotella said Tuesday that part of his strategy for improving their mental approach is to instill some helpful perspective.
“We begin with the idea that golf — by design — is a game of mistakes, and if you love the game of golf, you have to love that it’s a game of mistakes,” he said. “You remind them that other players are playing the same game, so they’re all going to make a lot of mistakes. The second part is because you are a human being, you’re going to make mistakes that you can’t believe you made, and you have to accept that.”

Lou Figueroa
Lou, a legendary one pocket player out of DC (who played 9-7 under Incardona and Grady - both gambled with him for high stakes) told me that he didn't stress missing or making a mistake. All he cared about was that he put 100% of his effort into every shot. He had a concrete plan for the execution of where the object and cue ball were going before getting down, plus solid fundamentals. I'll never forget that.
 
I have taken up weight training and lifting a lot of weights to supplement my pool game. I also do a lot of cardio. I do it for pool and not for my well being. LOL

Before anyone talk about anything with training and coaches you need to ask yourself do you train for pool? Is it overkill? Perhaps. I have treated pool like its a sport similar to basketball and football. LOL

Yes it has helped my pool game tremendously.

I may make a thread on this. How many of you guys train to play pool?
 
I have taken up weight training and lifting a lot of weights to supplement my pool game. I also do a lot of cardio. I do it for pool and not for my well being. LOL

Before anyone talk about anything with training and coaches you need to ask yourself do you train for pool? Is it overkill? Perhaps. I have treated pool like its a sport similar to basketball and football. LOL

Yes it has helped my pool game tremendously.

I may make a thread on this. How many of you guys train to play pool?
It should be treated the same as any other sport. Not overkill to me.
 
here’s a good one about being perfect-

Addiction to Perfection
The Still Unravished Bride

by Marion Woodman
 
Interesting to read the comments on this.

The truth is not everyone can appreciate a well written haiku and its simple, subtle, insightful lines; or maybe see the light in a Sargent portrait; or just be able to know that you don't know what you don't know.

But do you know what? If you're a ham and egger just pounding balls into the rubber at you local APA soirée you are not going to understand a lot of stuff like this. Blessedly, many folks see that Trevino, Snead, or Nelson would never be competitive on today's tour, even with the latest equipment (or Coke bottle ;-)

Personally, I think once you get into the rarified air of Grand Slams, on today's tour, someone to help with the mental part of your game would be invaluable. You guys who are an APA 3 at your local bar... don't worry about that stuff.

Lou Figueroa
 
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