What is the One Major Player Flaw You See Most Often At The Pool Hall
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Bet it's humans. My world would be all the sub tweeenies miss nothing do pool flawless and _then_ go out and learn the ropes.
Because Lou said the word "Player" I'll assume they are better than average, have good mechanics, know the shots, can draw, spin and follow their ball, understand position play, etc etc..
What I notice is they don't bear down, they don't take good aim and they pull the trigger too soon.
What I notice is they don't bear down, they don't take good aim and they pull the trigger too soon.
InsertCleverNameHere
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Unnecessary elevation of the butt of their cue on nearly all shots.
this. if lou is talking about players, not late night bangers. it's the biggest flaw, worldwide, because it's a natural reaction somehow, that you have to fight / root out.
my method was "tattooing" it on my bridge hand, F.T.S.D. (follow through, stay down) on weekly tournament day. try to incorporate the "stay down til the ball drops" principle in the way you shoot. it's a life long fight for some, just look at thorsten, FSR.. i heard thorsten practiced with some kind of weight on his chest (~20 years ago) to promote staying down. could be hearsay
*This* is what I see.
There was a pretty good sized event at my PR this past weekend and I was kinda shocked to see how high up in the air so many players had their grip. I mean it wasn't just a wee bit of elevation, the slope was way up there.
Anywhos, I was surprised. I've always known it was a problem in the setup of some guys but looking from table to table it's more wide spread than I would have thought. Of course, being Missouri, maybe as j2pac said it's just a Budweiser thing, lol.
Lou Figueroa
And gripping on the butt cap
I'd take that a step farther and say an obsession with spin in general. Speed alone is much less difficult to control than speed AND spin. It's also much less difficult to pocket balls with less spin. While it is really fun to see the cue ball zing off the cushion, it's way more fun to consistently make the ball your shooting at and get position by letting the rock roll where it wants to go.
Also I also see a lot of players not committing to the shot. They get down and fire while still thinking about it.
No one said it by many people just want to have fun, they have no desire to become better, or or proficient.
Pool is Recreation, having some Adult Beverages, and a diversion from work, family, life, stress.
So people play league for rec creation, they love Ribbon & Trophies, these people will the pocket of the league operator with money. Bar & Room Owner who are smart should DEMAND their Piece of Pie if they allow league player in their establishment.
Pool is Recreation, having some Adult Beverages, and a diversion from work, family, life, stress.
So people play league for rec creation, they love Ribbon & Trophies, these people will the pocket of the league operator with money. Bar & Room Owner who are smart should DEMAND their Piece of Pie if they allow league player in their establishment.
Rusty in Montana
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Another fault I notice is they swing out their grip hand away from their body which in turn throws the cue ball off to one side or the other then they wonder why they missed the shot .
I lovingly call this chicken winging it .
I lovingly call this chicken winging it .
its natural to elevate the butt. you do that with many tools you use. like a rake, shovel, lawn mower, etc all have the back end up.
so that is what most learn doing. and bad habits are hard to break.
take a look at your own golf swings, arm when throwing something, etc. unless you take something seriously and work to refine it all things for a person have flaws.
so that is what most learn doing. and bad habits are hard to break.
take a look at your own golf swings, arm when throwing something, etc. unless you take something seriously and work to refine it all things for a person have flaws.
Moe Szyslak
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in pool and elsewhere
This was the thing I was going to mention. Even fairly good (up to 550 level) players, do this on nearly every shot.
I have even asked some of them why they cue like that and they have no clue that it's so much easier to aim and move the cue ball with a flat stroke.
The simple and obvious answer is ... everything. Most players haven't been taught much and haven't taken the time to learn despite more info being publicly available than ever before.
I had a table growing up and played regularly until I went to college. Became a very good shotmaker ... because I didn't know much about fundamentals.
Fast forward 30 years later when I picked the game back up. I still had good shot-making ability, it turned out. My instincts and form weren't bad. But I had to learn about and improve every aspect of my game. Which I've done it in a very systematic and time-intensive way (kids are grown).
Four years later, still so much to learn. It never ends. Good players know that.
I had a table growing up and played regularly until I went to college. Became a very good shotmaker ... because I didn't know much about fundamentals.
Fast forward 30 years later when I picked the game back up. I still had good shot-making ability, it turned out. My instincts and form weren't bad. But I had to learn about and improve every aspect of my game. Which I've done it in a very systematic and time-intensive way (kids are grown).
Four years later, still so much to learn. It never ends. Good players know that.
Bridges are excessively long, causing inconsistent backstroke length, bad stroke arm angles, timing errors, and more.