fargo rate not changing??

no i take a spot whenever i can get one. when gambling you try to make the best game for yourself and then it also gives you room to adjust after winning. since you are not a gambler and seem to hate anyone that may be, you won't understand.

please put me on your ignore list, so you wont have to read my posts. since you are of the ilk to attack those you don't agree with.
oh, and i also ended that sentence with a preposition.
lets let it go and move on.
 
maha said:
no i take a spot whenever i can get one. when gambling you try to make the best game for yourself and then it also gives you room to adjust after winning. since you are not a gambler and seem to hate anyone that may be, you won't understand.

please put me on your ignore list, so you wont have to read my posts. since you are of the ilk to attack those you don't agree with.
oh, and i also ended that sentence with a preposition.
lets let it go and move on.
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I live now off the beaten path and I go to a small race to 2 or 3 weekly tournament. No Fargo Ratings or anything. Ben, who runs it, will occasionally assign one player, perhaps someone who has been successful recently, to go to an extra game, "we're gonna put a handicap on you tonight, Anthony" means you go to 3 instead of 2. I think the stronger players like when a handicap is put on them and are a little butt hurt when it isn't.
 
giving and getting spots make pool what it is. without some kind of adjustment there would be little reason to have competition as interest is gone once the outcome is predetermined.
however when gambling the two opponents are the ones who individually decide what the spot will be, coming to a mutual agreement.
 
maha said:
just the first two. the third, is an insult that should be beneath you.
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The third follows the first two, just a matter of semantics. Taking something after deception is the same thing as theft, I guess it may be fraud if we are going to try to use a different word hehe.
 
My Fargo rate started at 397 and 9 Robustness after my first tournament...
It then went to 400 but stayed at 9 robustness after my next tournament ??
After the next 2 tournaments which I took 4'th, then 3'rd while beating a couple people with a 543 rating
my Rate has jumped to 504 with and robustness of 28.
And yes, I do play in a bubble with less than 100 people.
 
Brother Ron said:
My Fargo rate started at 397 and 9 Robustness after my first tournament...
It then went to 400 but stayed at 9 robustness after my next tournament ??
After the next 2 tournaments which I took 4'th, then 3'rd while beating a couple people with a 543 rating
my Rate has jumped to 504 with and robustness of 28
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Sounds normal.

It will move a mile until you get to about 100 robustness.

I'd recommend you pay the $12 per year to see exactly which matches made it into the FargoRate app, if you really want to be serious about tracking it.
 
You said in an earlier post "starter rating of 397". If you have a 0 here, you do not have a starter rating. If you have a number here, you do. If you have a starter rating, your rating will move slower until you get to the 200 games and the starter rating goes away entirely.

Here is a former pro bank pool player in the Bank Pool HOF that I played recently and have been tracking. He's very old now, but still banks really well.

The P next to his name means less than 200 robustness. This player does not have a starter rating.
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This player does have a starter rating. He also has the P next to his rating which means less than 200 games. This player is performing in his 80 games less than his starter rating of 550. The starter rating is artificially pulling him higher.
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And here is a 3rd player, another Steve from another state, that has exactly 200 robustness. As soon as you get to 200, the P goes away, and the entire starter rating field goes away (whether you had a starter rating assigned or not).
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David in FL said:
Being "somewhat of a hustler" in most average bars isn't probably too much north of a low 400's Fargo... 😁
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Around central Wisconsin/North Central Wisconsin where I was weaned on pool I would venture to say 600 would be a better starting point.
Those days I watched Randy Lamar go to tournaments and shoot for whatever anyone wanted to shoot for in 9 ball in the adjoining bar all day while the tournament was going on. He used to take home 1000.00 to 2000.00 a day which was pretty good money back then.
 
Brother Ron said:
Around central Wisconsin/North Central Wisconsin where I was weaned on pool I would venture to say 600 would be a better starting point.
Those days I watched Randy Lamar go to tournaments and shoot for whatever anyone wanted to shoot for in 9 ball in the adjoining bar all day while the tournament was going on. He used to take home 1000.00 to 2000.00 a day which was pretty good money back then.
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He's in the system. Extremely active. Current rating of 653 with 5996 robustness. If his prime was in the 70's and 80's, that would make him well into his 60's or 70's today. So was probably a 700 player 40-50 years ago.
 
iusedtoberich said:
He's in the system. Extremely active. Current rating of 653 with 5996 robustness. If his prime was in the 70's and 80's, that would make him well into his 60's or 70's today. So was probably a 700 player 40-50 years ago.
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I would agree......
He was better than your average bar room hustler though ; )
I was not of his caliber - realistically I was probably around 600
In those days I lived in a Hotel above a bar and usually closed down the bar when my work day was over spending a good 4 to 6 hours playing pool daily.
 
Brother Ron said:
Around central Wisconsin/North Central Wisconsin where I was weaned on pool I would venture to say 600 would be a better starting point.
Those days I watched Randy Lamar go to tournaments and shoot for whatever anyone wanted to shoot for in 9 ball in the adjoining bar all day while the tournament was going on. He used to take home 1000.00 to 2000.00 a day which was pretty good money back then.
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I grew up in Wisconsin. Probably long before you, playing in Frank (Sailor) Stellman's room in Racine.

I beg to differ.

In fact, looking at Wisconsin's top players, I notice that it only takes a Fargo of 634 to break into the top 100 players in the entire state.

And they tend to gravitate towards the central to southern part of the state.

Madison, Milwaukee, Racine…

A 500 Fargo is probably a stud in most bars…
 
David in FL said:
I grew up in Wisconsin. Probably long before you, playing in Frank (Sailor) Stellman's room in Racine.

I beg to differ.

In fact, looking at Wisconsin's top players, I notice that it only takes a Fargo of 634 to break into the top 100 players in the entire state.

And they tend to gravitate towards the central to southern part of the state.

Madison, Milwaukee, Racine…

A 500 Fargo is probably a stud in most bars…
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The average players I shoot with are mostly around the 540 - 550 range.
jason severson, terry schilling, travis arndt, and a few others....
there are some around the 500 mark, but I wouldn't consider them stud hustlers.
 
Brother Ron said:
The average players I shoot with are mostly around the 540 - 550 range.
jason severson, terry schilling, travis arndt, and a few others....
there are some around the 500 mark, but I wouldn't consider them stud hustlers.
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You're playing with some of the better players in the state for sure.

Regardless though, my comment was a bit tongue in cheek and pertains to the average bar/tavern.

Damn, I still miss a good old Wisconsin corner bar!
 
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