Setup. I'm sure there's a bidding term for that too.
ID 2 Cues and 5 shafts please?
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I noticed it over $1,100 last evening.
My current thoughts:
Some bidding scam? If so, I don't get it.
I wonder if someone (more than one) actually nailed the ID? I figured it would get up to 400 or 500 range.
There is a high risk of non-paying bidders.
Ebay makes Disputes and returns easy on buyers, so risk is not so high if it's crap or warped beyond help.
Did anybody notice the tops of the points? They aren't sharp. Not like CNC rounded, just not sharp.
My current thoughts:
Some bidding scam? If so, I don't get it.
I wonder if someone (more than one) actually nailed the ID? I figured it would get up to 400 or 500 range.
There is a high risk of non-paying bidders.
Ebay makes Disputes and returns easy on buyers, so risk is not so high if it's crap or warped beyond help.
Did anybody notice the tops of the points? They aren't sharp. Not like CNC rounded, just not sharp.
Inflation is the life's blood for resellers.
billiards_watch
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Same sentiments.I noticed it over $1,100 last evening.
My current thoughts:
Some bidding scam? If so, I don't get it.
I wonder if someone (more than one) actually nailed the ID? I figured it would get up to 400 or 500 range.
There is a high risk of non-paying bidders.
Ebay makes Disputes and returns easy on buyers, so risk is not so high if it's crap or warped beyond help.
Did anybody notice the tops of the points? They aren't sharp. Not like CNC rounded, just not sharp.
I said earlier the bidding is quite high on a gamble. Unless someone knows more than we do and I doubt it. It hasn't been identified on here.
Perhaps, the "little old lady stumbled upon cues wrapped in a blanket" is, in on it.
Possible but I doubt it.
Not openly.
I will say that if I identify it and am bidding, there is no way I would reveal what I think the identity is until after the sale. So, it is entirely possible someone here knows and isn't saying. If I know someone that is bidding I would not throw them under the bus and drive the bidding up by revealing anything at all.
If I knew, or thought I knew, there are several people I would check with before announcing it just to make sure I wasn't stepping on their toes.
So, it is possible that someone is holding their cards close to their vest.
How enticing was this cue when I first saw it? I contacted the seller immediately and asked for specific detailed pictures. I set aside money immediately, well over what the bid is up to. I mapped out the 9 hour drive to the seller's town. I told my wife to prepare for a last-minute road trip.
If I get the right inspiration before this sale is over later today, I would be prepared to make a substantial bid. As it stands, I don't think that is likely.
It sure is fun to watch.
Better than hanging around in NPR. 
Even if it were an early JW, there are better deals to be made from reputable sellers.
Yup.
With a simple four point with veneers cue, no inlays or rings, it really has to be "something" to make this value range viable.
Without any documentation, it would take a really solid identification by a reputable person to make that a reality.
I do notice it isn't banged up. Inasmuch as it was found wrapped in a blanket with that OB, obviously someone's player, it was taken care of for a long time. Now, some people are just more careful with their cues, but the general condition of that butt did draw my attention.
One indication of age is that it seems to have little finish left on it. So, it didn't originally have a very modern finish. That takes wear. Wear requires use. And with that use we don't see nicks, dents or scratches? I found that remarkable.
The overall design is pretty standard, it hit's a lot of points on that, which also makes it frustrating for some because it resembles many but does not exactly match any as far as what has been publicly pointed out.
I don't see a Titlist that's for sure unless the few that I have are fakes. The plain cue looks to me like its for a different billiard game than pool. Is it possible that these cues both originated in a different country and that's why nobody yet recognizes them?
I think they were using the plain cue with just an exposed weight bolt as a break cue.
The ones with rounded tips on the outside veneer are not spliced, but are flat inlaid pieces. Ernie G introduced that method and Stroud used it a lot. My guess is the bidders think it is one of those two.
I agree, that is likely what they are thinking.
What's that signed one?
billiards_watch
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This was the listing and I think someone told her it was a Titilist conversion. Notice how she misspelled it. So everyone jumped on the bidding thinking they could have scored.
It's like saying, I have this cue and was told it was a Babanushka......I think people are banking on it being a titilist.
Paul_#_
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The seller, acausey-us , is doing ok selliing another no-name cue, this time the bid is at $371 at https://www.ebay.com/itm/1772318159...d=link&campid=5335988529&toolid=20001&mkevt=1
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Personally, I don't see Ernie G. or Stroud in that cue. Someone is going to pay too much.
looks like junk
billiards_watch
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A lot of times these sellers know exactly what they are doing. This is a tactic of theirs' and that is to play dumb so buyers think they got one up on an unsuspecting seller.
For example....."I recently acquired this cue and have no idea what it is. I am selling it as is. Someone told me it was a Sambody brand." (Szamboti).
Some will pay a seller $$$$ in what he thinks would be a Szam or gamble that it is one.
I noticed the lack of finish as well. My theory, and just that, is the cue had a lacquer finish that wore off with a lot of use. The wrap shows a lot of use too. Lacquer tended to do that over time, whereas the follow-on polyurethane and 2-part car finishes were much more durable. If that's the case, I put this cue sometime before 1980, when makers were largely switching to the 2-part car finish. At the time, Dupont Imron, not sure what it may be currently.