Which one of these break tips is the hardest leather? I think i want the one with the most energy transfer but still can hold chalk for a second ball break with side spin. I don't think you can do that with a Phenolic tip.
Better than Phenolic
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why not chalk before the every break?
you should chalk before every shot you make, especially if applying spin, so definitely on a break shot.
Recently I've tested my break speed with the Predator Break Speed app, using my BK2 with a CF Raven shaft with a Phenolic tip and with my Players J/B cue that have a Samsara tip.
Both cues weigh about the same. I got the about same max resaults with both.
It is more about the speed you can move the cue than the hardness of the tips at these hardness levels (of course, there will be a difference compared to a softer tip) . the Samsara is obviously easier to chalk and control with side spin.
you should chalk before every shot you make, especially if applying spin, so definitely on a break shot.
Recently I've tested my break speed with the Predator Break Speed app, using my BK2 with a CF Raven shaft with a Phenolic tip and with my Players J/B cue that have a Samsara tip.
Both cues weigh about the same. I got the about same max resaults with both.
It is more about the speed you can move the cue than the hardness of the tips at these hardness levels (of course, there will be a difference compared to a softer tip) . the Samsara is obviously easier to chalk and control with side spin.
Speaking of Taom, I wonder what Taom and ElkMaster could come up with.
g0ds gReeN
Active member
I've only used Samsara out of that list, which is solid. But I also chalk before every break.
SSDiver2112
Escott Cues
I’ve been using a bulletproof tip for a while now. It breaks great and there’s many times I don’t re-chalk before breaking again.
I am using the Kamui Sai -Control break tip on my McDermott Stinger cue that I’ve used for decades.
Much to my surprise and amazement, the tip either rejuvenated my cue or else my break because it
seems to hit the rack more powerfully based on the sound of my break and scatter of the pool balls.
Much to my surprise and amazement, the tip either rejuvenated my cue or else my break because it
seems to hit the rack more powerfully based on the sound of my break and scatter of the pool balls.
I have used the Kamui control tip - excellent power, very good control , but you must chalk diligently prior to each break shot.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
Are you guys using hard or extra hard?
IDK what the hardness rating was on the tip that was on the break cue that I purchased except that it was a Kamui control break tip.
I am using extra hard…… it sure seems like it is too.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I can't say for absolute certain but it seems so. I was used to a bakelite tip. The bakelite can definitely generate spin but with the Samsara it was almost like any spin I tried to apply caused the CB to masse or something. I'm not a skilled jumper, so it is probably a skill issue, but my make percentage went WAY down when trying any kind of spin, even a bit. I was pretty comfortable making and getting shape with the bakelite. I can pretty much make a ball jumping now but it's scary to even attempt any kind of shape. If I'm brutally honest I think the grab is amplifying my flaws.
I know it's not supposed to work this way but when elevated, like a jump shot must be, it's giving me fits. When I get a chance I'll put another bakelite on. I've been trying to give it a chance but it's almost wore out it's welcome. That said I still think it would make an excellent break tip.
The ones measuring more than 92-93 on the durometer.
I think you can just talk about which break tip you like best.
My post was because I was about to pull the trigger on a Raven break cue... but I realized that they are standard deflection carbon shafts. Probably stiffer than wood, but not any better than a 80 dollar CF break shaft. So, I am having second thoughts.
Never said I liked them best.
Thought I would mention them, have read nothing but good on them right here by those who's opinion I trust.
I'm not into that as noted by my sig line
Paul_#_
Well-known member
More info on Kamui's Control Break Sai Tip selling for $28 at PoolDawg in either Hard or Extra Hard. It is made of pigskin and resin (phenolic resin?).
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