Flakeandrun
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Do it now. Not sure why it's in there to begin with.
Take all of the weight out of your break cue
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Flakeandrun
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I didn't like it (or the thought of it) light either. After a year or so hitting with my PBkai/Ignite shaft, and regularly telling people who suggested to remove it that "I don't mess with cues, I work on my action"
It wasn't that I hit them poorly. WPA/MR 9ball, 8ball, 10ball. All solid. I am actually thinking at this point that playing with the weight in was a useful muscle memory training. I was able to hit the 26/27mph mark previously with weight in, and I will measure max speed later out of interest (as I rarely break full tilt in any format).
My friend took it out while I went to get a coffee yesterday as a joke. I came back and was blasting racks of WPA 9ball. made 6balls on the break twice. Was also nice nostalgic feeling for me, reminded me of when me and my friends would turn each others trucks the opposite way round when leaving skateboards unattended at my local skate store growing up haha
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A friend of mine who's a local table mechanic was selling various cues made by Mike Gulyassy - the creator of the Sledgehammer jump/break cue. One day he showed up with quite a few break cues for sale. I was able to try out a number of Orange Crusher break cues in different weights. They were otherwise identical. Previous to this, I had only used heavy break cues.
After about 30 minutes of experimenting with the different weights I chose an 18 ounce breaker. For me, the heavier cues didn't produce as much speed as the lighter ones and the cues lighter than 18 ounces were difficult to control.
But that was for me. I don't have any reason to think that others would make the same choice and for the same reasons.
cueball2010
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I don't think everyone can move their arm that fast. They're probably adding weight because arm swing is already maxed.
Flakeandrun
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I was using it at its stock weight. Now using it, at it's minimal weight. Will continue to see how it goes. But you're right, trial and error. See what works for you. As an idea, I do think using a heavier cue and developing the stroke/precision that you want could have some "weight to it"
But really felt good and had good results yesterday, and am keen to continue seeing how it goes.
My 3C playing cue is around 15.5oz. Maybe 16.I was using it at its stock weight. Now using it, at it's minimal weight. Will continue to see how it goes. But you're right, trial and error. See what works for you. As an idea, I do think using a heavier cue and developing the stroke/precision that you want could have some "weight to it"
But really felt good and had good results yesterday, and am keen to continue seeing how it goes.
I get around the table just fine.
I usually break with a Cuetec butt and a break shaft that Muellers made for me 20 years ago.
It's around 17.8 ounces and the lightest cue I've got. That's why I break with it. Not sure I'd want to go and play in a tournament using a Cuetec break cue though. People might laugh me out of the arena. I guess I could tell them it doubles as a fishing pole during the day.
r/DCP
It's around 17.8 ounces and the lightest cue I've got. That's why I break with it. Not sure I'd want to go and play in a tournament using a Cuetec break cue though. People might laugh me out of the arena. I guess I could tell them it doubles as a fishing pole during the day.
r/DCP
Flakeandrun
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I actually didn't weigh mine after removing, will do later.
My friend has a Jacoby "Featherweight" this is around 14oz I believe. Worked well for MR 9ball when I tried it. Didn't try any other game with it. Joking about this cue being a matchstick is what made him take the weight out of mine
Flakeandrun
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That's like the guys 'Featherweight' Jacoby. Guess you tried it, liked it, and that's good enough
If I had a 27mph break I would remove some weight too, I have a paltry 14 maybe 15mph break, the only way I'm going to gain more force is by keeping my 24 1/2 oz break cue, there are many ways to make your cue work for YOU.
18.5 oz is what I have. Most hard breaks are between 17-21mph. I've tried various weights, super light is not my thing.
My friend Ron was clocked at 26mph at SBE, I believe the formula is mass × speed = force, you can improve your break force by adding weight if you don't have good break speed.
Flakeandrun
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Agree
I have a feeling this was the stock weight of my cue. I generally aim to break below maximum to preserve control. Probably around similar speeds listed here. I think 16/17mph was a sweet spot when I was putting work into this a while ago. I'll go back and check the data I collected then. I can hit them hard, but beyond dicking around, I don't.
Is it nice? I considered an MIT Jump break to stick in my spare case (previously sold as Samsara X-breaker I believe). Can find them here for 100$ give or take. Three friends have this cue, and it's real good.
For now, a dedicated break has worked for me in game, and I trust the set-up I have.
It’s very nice, Mike’s work is the truth. He made me 2 shafts, one with his Anvil taper and one with his sledgehammer taper. Best break cue I ever had. Never had any kind of jump cue, much less a break jump. I prefer to kick, and haven’t used it to jump many balls, but it does it easily with either shaft although the Anvil taper shaft is the better breaker of the two for me.
The Old Jaybird
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cut about 5 inches off the butt???