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Was the “Wimpy” on the Rambow-looking cue written by Luther Lassiter?

Please compare the signed cue to the engraved cue and the engraved joint protector:

The embellishments on the signed cue were clearly added.

Is it the same basic “W” as the engraved cue?

Does the “W” on the joint protector have the same beginning embellishment as the penciled cue?

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SBC said:
Could be signed by Charles Kimmel who did the calligraphy on these Rambow and Brunswick cues. He wrote out scoreboards for the PGA beginning in 1931.
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Not Kimmel's script, his hand writing is both flowing and perfect, that personalization has gaps and mistakes.

It looks more like hesitation by someone looking at a signature and trying to copy it.

Also the butt does not look like a Rambow, it's too blocky not rounded enough.
 
Benelli said:
Not Kimmel's script, his hand writing is both flowing and perfect, that personalization has gaps and mistakes.

It looks more like hesitation by someone looking at a signature and trying to copy it.

Also the butt does not look like a Rambow, it's too blocky not rounded enough.
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Well, I feel differently.

To me, it’s quite obviously Lassiter’s handwriting.

It’s also known that Lassiter experimented with or preferred non-white ferrules and non-reflective joints.

I truly believe this cue was made for Luther Lassiter to his specs and preferences.
 
PhilosopherKing said:
Well, I feel differently.

To me, it’s quite obviously Lassiter’s handwriting.

It’s also known that Lassiter experimented with or preferred non-white ferrules and non-reflective joints.

I truly believe this cue was made for Luther Lassiter to his specs and preferences.
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Sounds like you have all the information you need in your head.

Why post at all...
 
I don’t know shit, but wouldn’t the embellishments on the “W” be nothing? I would think you would look at the spacing and the height of the hump in the middle. They don’t seem to match up.

What is the spacing of the letters like? Connected in the 2nd pic and only the “I-M” are connected in the first.

What aboot the letters where you would drop down below the line of your grade school primer? In the rosewood forearm the “p” and “y” both have loops where the maple forearm is straight.

Nothing seems the same, but it’s probably hard to sign your name in a round hunk of wood…

I haven’t signed my actual name in decades. I just sign as old Browns players from the 80’s; “Tim Manoa #42” or the like.
 
Anybody have an autograph of Lassiter's with the name Wimpy to compare? Some of the signatures above look like deeper engravings rather than just a written signature. Interesting cue though.
 
I owned a cue that was made for lassiter with a 9 ball rack inlaid in the butt. I believe it was made for him by meucci. Probably a gift. I wonder if the cue is still around in someone's collection.
I saw him playing in the 60s and he was playing with a Martin. Not long after I got one. I think other then a Gina I had on the 70s that was my favorite cue.
 
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WildWing said:
Anybody have an autograph of Lassiter's with the name Wimpy to compare? Some of the signatures above look like deeper engravings rather than just a written signature. Interesting cue though.
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I have an ancient house cue Luther used that he pencilled his name on. Patina makes it look like Kielwood. 👍🏻😁
 
Benelli said:
Sounds like you have all the information you need in your head.

Why post at all...
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Not meaning to break your balls here, but how is this any different than your post about the cue you came into that you believed and actually turned out to be one of Richard Blacks early cues?

I mean based upon your reactions in that thread to anyone that didn’t agree with your initial assessment, it was kind of what you posted here in the post I’m quoting isn’t it? Sounded like you had “all the info in your head” on that cue, so why did you post? Again, I reiterate, this is isn’t an attempt to break your balls, it’s just to say it’s no different than that situation, so why break his balls?
 
I got Lassiter's autograph once and he signed Luther Lassiter. I'm not so sure he was fond of the name Wimpy. Rarely did I hear him called that, except behind his back. In the presence of pool players he was always addressed as Luther (by his friends) and Mr. Lassiter by others. He was highly respected in the pool world!
 
Frosty said:
Not meaning to break your balls here, but how is this any different than your post about the cue you came into that you believed and actually turned out to be one of Richard Blacks early cues?

I mean based upon your reactions in that thread to anyone that didn’t agree with your initial assessment, it was kind of what you posted here in the post I’m quoting isn’t it? Sounded like you had “all the info in your head” on that cue, so why did you post? Again, I reiterate, this is isn’t an attempt to break your balls, it’s just to say it’s no different than that situation, so why break his balls?
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I had no clue what it was till someone posted an identical cue signed by Richard. At that point, we had a confirmation, and there was no bias on my part I was looking at hard evidence posted by someone else, not me. I came into the post with no position whatsoever in fact, I DID NOT think it was an RB cue at that point. The visual evidence changed my mind.

This poster has started from an opposite place; they already believe the cue is Lassisters and are only looking for confirmation.

So let's break down my response and why...

I own 10 signed Rambows and am very familiar with both his and Kimmel's signature style.

The questions originally posed were:

1. Is this a Rambow looking cue (no not really)
2. Did Luther Lassiter embellish this cue with a "Rambow" like personalization of Wimpy (Someone clearly wrote that in a deliberate Rambow style that is not natural to either Rambow or Kimmel's writing style)
3. Is the W the same across the JP, the forearm, and the other engraved cue (No, not really)

Also, there is this: An authenticated Lassiter Rambow that he wrote his full name on, not Wimpy

www.worthpoint.com

LUTHER LASSITER'S SIGNED RAMBOW CUE**** AUTHENTICATED | #151812402

I have now had this cue authenticated by Luther Lassiter's brother Clarence and nephew Jeff as being one of his cues that he personally signed and later gave to Jeff Lassiter who in turn had Luther se
www.worthpoint.com www.worthpoint.com

So not only did you not break my balls, you kind of failed at basic reading comprehension across not only one thread but two.
 
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Frosty said:
Not meaning to break your balls here, but how is this any different than your post about the cue you came into that you believed and actually turned out to be one of Richard Blacks early cues?

I mean based upon your reactions in that thread to anyone that didn’t agree with your initial assessment, it was kind of what you posted here in the post I’m quoting isn’t it? Sounded like you had “all the info in your head” on that cue, so why did you post? Again, I reiterate, this is isn’t an attempt to break your balls, it’s just to say it’s no different than that situation, so why break his balls?
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jay helfert said:
I got Lassiter's autograph once and he signed Luther Lassiter. I'm not so sure he was fond of the name Wimpy. Rarely did I hear him called that, except behind his back. In the presence of pool players he was always addressed as Luther (by his friends) and Mr. Lassiter by others. He was highly respected in the pool world!
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Yessir!!!
Luther couldn't tell you where that knickname came from either.
Seems to be several versions, but the "I'll gladly pay you tuesday for a hamburger today", wasn't one of them.
And how anyone can write cursive on a pool cue and have it look good is beyond me!!😉
 
Benelli said:
I had no clue what it was till someone posted an identical cue signed by Richard. At that point, we had a confirmation, and there was no bias on my part I was looking at hard evidence posted by someone else, not me. I came into the post with no position whatsoever in fact, I DID NOT think it was an RB cue at that point. The visual evidence changed my mind.

This poster has started from an opposite place; they already believe the cue is Lassisters and are only looking for confirmation.

So let's break down my response and why...

I own 10 signed Rambows and am very familiar with both his and Kimmel's signature style.

The questions originally posed were:

1. Is this a Rambow looking cue (no not really)
2. Did Luther Lassiter embellish this cue with a "Rambow" like personalization of Wimpy (Someone clearly wrote that in a deliberate Rambow style that is not natural to either Rambow or Kimmel's writing style)
3. Is the W the same across the JP, the forearm, and the other engraved cue (No, not really)

Also, there is this: An authenticated Lassiter Rambow that he wrote his full name on, not Wimpy

www.worthpoint.com

LUTHER LASSITER'S SIGNED RAMBOW CUE**** AUTHENTICATED | #151812402

I have now had this cue authenticated by Luther Lassiter's brother Clarence and nephew Jeff as being one of his cues that he personally signed and later gave to Jeff Lassiter who in turn had Luther se
www.worthpoint.com www.worthpoint.com

So not only did you not break my balls, you kind of failed at basic reading comprehension across not only one thread but two.
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That's what his name looks like on my cue. Damn near identical. In pencil!!😂
Congrats on your find!!
 
Here is another Lassiter cue with his full name scribed by him in the points, no Wimpy.

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