Flakeandrun
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I agree, everything has a learning curve, and some use what they got to get the best out of things.
Going towards CF break shaft/cue, my options
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Have you actually tried to new one that is replacing the 2.0? I haven’t seen one yet.
Flakeandrun
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I haven't tried it yet, and am unlikely to (unless my friend gets one) but I can post some picture of it later when I have a moment. Seems to be a purple layered tip. I think the Kanui Sai Hard is the best thing I have tried to this point.
As many have said, if your fundamentals are solid, the CF might not be much of a performance upgrade. Durability? Maybe. I tried the CF Break shaft, and to be honest, I have had equally as good, if not better results with my Avid Break shaft. I had the stock tip switched to a HORO Black Storm, and it works well.
A Jflowers would honestly be a big downgrade. The KAI is still one of the best break cues out there and you can buy a CF shaft for that like the Triple 60 break shaft, I have sold quite a few of those combos or you could have a shaft made.
Will there be a significant difference? Nah I don't think so. CF gives a little better energy transfer, but it's not like it's gonna be a huge difference. As others have mentioned your technique is the determining factor more than anything else.
Will there be a significant difference? Nah I don't think so. CF gives a little better energy transfer, but it's not like it's gonna be a huge difference. As others have mentioned your technique is the determining factor more than anything else.
Flakeandrun
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How's the Triple60 break shaft play? There's something I have not had a chance to fiddle with here yet. Triple60 isn't so popular here. It initially had big pricetags, but resale value is rockbottom on reselling apps on the shafts I have seen here. Lot of friends weren't so enamored with them.
The Gold9 shaft I picked up is real nice. Same taper as a BKR shaft, but ferrule material is slightly different. Ignite G is real nice, I especially like its thinner taper for the MR format break. It says on their site that the tip is 12.9mm but mine measured at 12.7mm. The Gold 9 is 12.9mm.
I agree with KimBye, the PBK is fantastic. Maybe switch up the tip before you try on a new shaft.
Since i started playing again about 18 months ago i I have gone through a lot of break cues. Tried a lot of carbon shafts all the way from the cheap Little Monster cues to the BK Rush. I mainly play 10 ball and honestly cannot see any advantage power wise from carbon over wood shafts, if anything I feel the balls split better when I'm breaking with a wood shaft. Current set up is an old Gullyassy Sledgehammer butt with a Mezz Pro R shaft and Zan Double Face tip.
Triple 60 shafts are high quality shafts. The break shaft has a nice taper and feel to it, not as jarring as day Cuetec and Predator. Changing the tip to something like a Gator or SAI will give you better cue ball control.
The prices are about the same as other big brands, the interchangeable insert system is a nice bonus.
A custom break shaft would actually be slightly cheaper and it would be equally good in terms of performance, but resell value tends to be lower than the brand names.
I started playing again after 10 years of not even picking up a cue about 3 years ago, I'm just now STARTING to get a consistent pro like stroke, I think a pro golf and pool strokes are very similar with golf being more complicated to learn but a pro billiard stroke is not easy, especially to repeat over and over again, just watch SVB, Gorst, Filler and many others, they get incredible cueball action and it doesn't even look like they are hitting the cueball hard, to me that is one sign of a great stroke, when you can move the cueball and not have to "muscle" it around the table.
I never played pool until I was 38 years old, I dedicated myself to the pursuit of music, when I did "play" I was horrible, my little sister was better than me, I got interested in the game in the late 90's early 2000's watching ESPN, I loved the beauty and precision of the sport, I played APA and reached skill level 6, circumstances caused me to give up the game and sell my cues, 4 years ago I started playing again, I didn't have a table the first year and the closest pool hall was 30 miles away so that first year I didn't get to really practice, finally got a table and the last 2 years I started taking lessons from PBIA instructor Kim Young, he taught me about vision center and taught me to stroke straight, I also dedicated an hour a day, or more, to practice, not banging balls around and last but not least, this guy named Hawaiian Eye introduced me to Becue cues, I swore I would never use a CF cue, I learned never to swear you aren't going to do something......
Flakeandrun
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Thats wild, I had one of the old eliminator cues with the fiberglass shaft 17oz . I think i paid 50 bucks for it. I put on a Talisman x hard and i could pop the cue ball straight up on the break with a slight elevated break. Broke like a dream. but that was least 25 years ago. I dont break as hard now days. But yeah i have always broke with all my cues. I use a 11.5mm Meucci originals shaft on my Richard Black and break with it. The shaft is still straight after all these years. Never hurt one bit. Just had to shave the mushroom off of some tips is all. Shaft is from the 80's and the Black is from 1976. both straight.
That is an old Richard Black.
I had him make me one in 1978.
I broke with that cue thousands of times and never had a problem.
Yep, lucky to find one the first year he started making cues full time. He still used the 5/16x18 pin. got a really forward balance. its a pretty plain one but has some crazy birdseye.
Mine was an ebony 4-point with four veneers. It looked exactly like a Balabushka.
I had him make me another cue in 1981. It was a Merry Widow with a black leather wrap.
I don't have either of them now.
I wish I could find the first one and get it back. I sold it to a young Air Force guy in the Philippines. He was from Texas and he bugged the hell out of me to sell it to him after I bought the second cue.
I love the old school Bushka design, bet it was sweet.