Gold Crown 7 Revealed

I emailed B'wick and was told its ball-return only. Must have central return as usedtobe said. Shouldn't be a total deal killer but a certain % of possible buyers will look at a D'mond Pro instead. I know i would. Plus the D is US made.
 
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I emailed B'wick and was told its ball-return only. Must have central return as usedtobe said. Shouldn't be a total deal killer but a certain % of possible buyers will look at a D'mond Pro instead. I know i would. Plus the D is US made.
Guarantee you a good installer could put drop pockets in it. Not that hard. Wouldn't change playability one iota.
 
Guarantee you a good installer could put drop pockets in it. Not that hard. Wouldn't change playability one iota.
Just put big carwash sponges in the pockets. i've played a pro-am like this and it works perfect. if paying these prices i'd get a Diamond Pro every time.
 
How can you mess up a diamond install?
The cloth does not come factory stretched. It has to be put on after frame and slate are set up. The rails are pre covered. The long screws went where the shorts belonged. And shorts in the long places. The installers had no idea how to put what where. Anything is easy to mess up by a hacker.
 
The cloth does not come factory stretched. It has to be put on after frame and slate are set up. The rails are pre covered. The long screws went where the shorts belonged. And shorts in the long places. The installers had no idea how to put what where. Anything is easy to mess up by a hacker.

For sure.
 
Thanks. So:

$13,700 for a new 9' GC7 (any pocket, any color). Delivery and installation nationwide included. No tax.
$10,635 for a new 9' Diamond Professional (NOT Pro-Am). Delivery and installation to Indiana included. No tax.
 
Thanks. So:

$13,700 for a new 9' GC7 (any pocket, any color). Delivery and installation nationwide included. No tax.
$10,635 for a new 9' Diamond Professional (NOT Pro-Am). Delivery and installation to Indiana included. No tax.

For what it's worth the Diamond factory is in Jeffersonville, Indiana. About two hours from me.
 
Thanks. So:

$13,700 for a new 9' GC7 (any pocket, any color). Delivery and installation nationwide included. No tax.
$10,635 for a new 9' Diamond Professional (NOT Pro-Am). Delivery and installation to Indiana included. No tax.
Question is…. Who is installing it? Either table.
 
Why the table flipping? You remind of some of my golf buddies flippin drivers every month when they can't hit a fairway. If i had a GC4 i'd never look at another table. IMO that's the best GC made. My home room , Magoo's in Tulsa, has ten really nice 4's.

Shush now, that table's mine. :)
 
One of the first rooms to get them. They got qty 4. I believe this is the first time any detail has been shown under the hood to the general public. I saw in a FB post (unknown if true of course) that the first run was qty 75 units. Those would have been the ones that sold out in 4 hours. From my manufacturing experience in China, I'd guess that was a "pilot run" meant to test the production line itself. The earlier tables were probably "engineering pilots" which were meant to test the actual table design.

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Because I feel like my Gold Crown IV just doesn't play good. It doesn't seem to cooperate. Can't explain it. It is what it is.

And why buy new tables? Single, never married, no kids to worry about college or 20% house downpayments, worked for the govt, hoarded most of my $$$ over the years, the stock market has done really well for a long time.

I am not planning on leaving all my $$$ for someone else to spend. At least that's the plan.
Don't ever listen to someone else's advice on what you should do with your money, unless you've asked them for their advice.
If you want to spend it wisely or foolishly, that's for you to decide.
 
One of the first rooms to get them. They got qty 4. I believe this is the first time any detail has been shown under the hood to the general public. I saw in a FB post (unknown if true of course) that the first run was qty 75 units. Those would have been the ones that sold out in 4 hours. From my manufacturing experience in China, I'd guess that was a "pilot run" meant to test the production line itself. The earlier tables were probably "engineering pilots" which were meant to test the actual table design.

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Know this place well, a friend runs the leagues there. SP's is a chain of rooms in KC area(one in Wichita) that always have good equipment. The BlueSprings location is tied in tight with UP and B'wick. I think they're gonna switch to all B'wick GCc bar tables too. That frame looks STOUT. You can also see the ball-return layout and why drop-pocket model isn't being offered(yet?). BTW, they went with 4.25" corners. KansasCity is pool room rich with all the SidePockets, Shooter's in Olathe and the old classic RaytownRec with its 10'Kling. https://www.sidepockets.com/
 
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I just heard from my buddy up in KC. He said longtime Wichita mechanic Kim Thompson(taught by the great Jack Shurtz) is doing the set-up. He said these are the best built table he's worked on. Looks like B'wick did their homework on them.
 
From looking at the pic and with a manufacturing background, I can offer:

The frame is made of bent sheetmetal in steel. NOT extruded aluminum. (the Rasson is extruded aluminum). That's a much better choice, imo, because each frame member can be customized for no additional cost. All the holes and fasteners are put in automatically during the punching/laser cutting process, then it's bent. Extruded aluminum needs secondary machining operations to get all the fasteners and cuts in. Or, you end up with sliding fasteners in the T-slots of the extrusion that can move all over the place.

There are lots of off-the-shelf fastening systems for sheetmetal, including fasteners with built-in thread-locking mechanisms. They are called PEM fasteners, and are the industry standard, and are pressed into the sheetmetal. I can't tell from looking at the pic which was used, but I'd imagine one of them was. If so, that means no loose nuts to lose, (the nut is pressed into the sheetmetal and becomes permanent to it). Or, the screw can be pressed into the sheetmetal, (its then called a stud), and the nut is loose. This is good for us so less chance of the mechanic leaving stuff off.

The ball return looks very well integrated into the design. Less things exposed to break, or fail in the field. Also possibly save on shipping size. The tunnels also look to be bent sheetmetal in a "U" shape. Better than the older GC wire tracks, imo, that if they move slightly, the balls fall out and/or get stuck.

The pedestal base looks like they are possibly two pieces that stack on top of each other? If so, that might be to reduce the cube-size (shipping size). Or, it could just be an aesthetic line and is all one piece underneath.
 
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