I am 90 mins from there now, near Orlando, but was not able to go due to work schedule :-(
Predator Men's 10 Ball JAX
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Make it 9 ball and get rid of the talking to your partner. Impossible to watch.
sudocrushms
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Get rid of the early 10s and make it real 10-ball. Doubles is awesome.
sudocrushms
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Shaw and Filler were missing shots they usually don't in the Open. Look at the shots themselves. I've seen several that would go down on a 4.25" Diamond that were spit out. I think the pocket facings are weird. *Aynthing* that catches the jaws doesn't go down. All pockets, which is at least consistent, but these tables clearly play tighter than they measure.
i think you're right. would be interesting to hear a player's take. these are the older version of predators table, right?
sudocrushms
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Yeah. They've had the Arc at the last few events and went back to the Apex.
I don't recall these issues with the custom top for the 1-pocket event last year...
Doubles is cool.
I just think when both are pros, they don't need the little side conversation every shot. It's a time waste and breaks up the flow.
Since doubles is already slower why do you want no early 10?
I like real 10 ball too but not in doubles as a viewer.
sudocrushms
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I just don't like early 10s at all. To me it defeats the purpose of playing 10b. (Although i think if you make the 10 on the break it should count because it doesn't happen often)
Agree that it can be a bit of a slog when partners aren't on the same page, but i think that will change as they get more experience with the format. It's a lot better later on when the weaker teams are eliminated. The drop off seems to be pretty quick in dubs.
The main reason for 10b is it greatly reduces the importance of the break. I don't think a called early 10b lessens the game at all in fact it spices it up especially for those in the stands. Allowing early/called 10b's doesn't 'defeat the purpose' of the game. I've watched WPA 10b-last and to me its nowhere near as exciting.
Every time I watch Lukas Fracasso-Verner, I see a constantly improving player. But I also see a player who just can't seem to break into the elite. Too many misses on shots that should be automatic.
His last frame vs Mario He was good illustration. Safety execution was spotty and he had some bad misses that cost him the match.
His last frame vs Mario He was good illustration. Safety execution was spotty and he had some bad misses that cost him the match.
It's taken most players a few years to get the wheels greased.
I saw the same. I have hope.
Do you know what kind of wood shaft he plays with? Seems like it has a TON of deflection. Whenever the camera is directly in front of him when he's down on a shot that requires spin, the cue is rarely parallel to the cue ball, which tells me he might be compensating a lot. I could be wrong though.
just like in tv golf the curve of the lens often distorts exactly what you're seeing. i doubt its deflecting anywhere close to what you think.
Lukas is sponsored by McDermott. He has been using a H-series cue with a i-2 shaft (wood shell, carbon core). The butt on his stick in the match vs Mario He looked different than what I have seen him use before.
The only other top men's player sponsored by McDermott is Jonas Souto. He uses a Defy carbon shaft.
The only other top men's player sponsored by McDermott is Jonas Souto. He uses a Defy carbon shaft.
Thanks for that. Guess he enjoys high deflection shafts then. Couldn't pay me to play with an i-2 lol.
These shafts have been out for over 15 years and they are definitely not low deflection.
Not sure why he would choose to put himself at a disadvantage. Maybe he just loves the company and their sponsorship. All I'm saying is, with his talent and skill, if he played with an actual low deflection shaft, he wouldn't miss as many balls.
But to each their own, I'm sure he will figure it out and become great.
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if you're used to high deflection shafts the opposite is true. put an LD shaft in the hands of ko pin yi and he will miss more because he's used to more compensation
True, but they are on a different level lol.
Speaking of Ko, I came across their blog channel on Youtube, pretty wholesome content. You get to see their personalities off the table which is cool. They have some beautiful cues being made over there.
I played in the event… the pockets were 4” and all the rails banked short. So if you hit the facing, it spit the ball out….
Brutally tough, although Atencio looks like he is playing on buckets…. Otherwise
Guys just cinching balls then playing safe…. Great venue, great event…. Arc tables are great, wish they had those
are you sure it's not the facings? on stream they look very tough, and concave
either way these tables have always been more difficult than what the pocket size and shelf depth is telling