Looking to purchase a pool table for my home. Need some advice.

[The Old Jaybird]

buy a good, very good, used table. they never wear out. and you can save a bunch on the front end of the deal. Let someone else eat the first year's depreciation. Find a motivated seller, i.e. somebody who is moving and can't take the table with them.

 

[DrCue'sProtege]

Will the floor in your 2nd floor support a 1,000 pound pool table?

I've had my 9-foot Gold Crown IV and soon will have a 9-foot Diamond Professional in my upstairs garage apartment. Having said that, where the table is going has 6-7 extra floor joists installed. Never had a problem with the floor giving or the table not being level.

r/DCP

 

[RidgeRaider]

Will the floor in your 2nd floor support a 1,000 pound pool table?

I've had my 9-foot Gold Crown IV and soon will have a 9-foot Diamond Professional in my upstairs garage apartment. Having said that, where the table is going has 6-7 extra floor joists installed. Never had a problem with the floor giving or the table not being level.

r/DCP

You raise a REALLY good point....

By the time you get the table, balls, shit like chairs and then add 3-4 people standing around it, you've got quit a bit of weight where it was never designed to be.

Think of it like putting a hot tub on a deck not rated to hold a hot tub. Not good.

 

[Kris_b1104]

Will the floor in your 2nd floor support a 1,000 pound pool table?

I've had my 9-foot Gold Crown IV and soon will have a 9-foot Diamond Professional in my upstairs garage apartment. Having said that, where the table is going has 6-7 extra floor joists installed. Never had a problem with the floor giving or the table not being level.

r/DCP

Yeah it's a brand new house and up to code.

 

[Kris_b1104]

Anyone have any experience with an 8ft Peter Vitalie table?

 

[HawaiianEye]

A.E. Schmidt makes a good commercial 8-foot table if it will fit and you can find one.

 

[GoldCrown]

Anyone have any experience with an 8ft Peter Vitalie table?

Seems like they are very good quality tables. They are out of business.... I guess if parts are needed they have to be "Will Fit" or customs have to be made. Maybe if you like what you see and price is right go with your gut.... but I will encourage you to try to connect with a 1st class mechanic before buying a table....

 

[Kris_b1104]

Seems like they are very good quality tables. They are out of business.... I guess if parts are needed they have to be "Will Fit" or customs have to be made. Maybe if you like what you see and price is right go with your gut.... but I will encourage you to try to connect with a 1st class mechanic before buying a table....

Thanks, I'll definitely try to do that.

 

[Kris_b1104]

I am thinking of pulling the trigger on this:

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Thoughts? Anything I should be weary of?
I will eventually change the cloth and rails later on.

@JPB2 @jeephawk @MitchAlsup

Seller is offering $1,500 including delivery and installation. 3-piece slate.

I can also just purchase the table alone and have it installed by a reputable mechanic. But I'm not sure if that will reduce the price or not, I have to find out. Seller is saying payment is not due until installation is complete.

 

[maha]

very decent buy and fits in well in a house. everyone says get a diamond. but you can play on one in any poolroom.

if its just all about playing drills to win at league and not enjoy the table then get a diamond and have at it.

 

[JPB2]

I am thinking of pulling the trigger on this:

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I will eventually change the cloth and rails later on.

@JPB2 @jeephawk @MitchAlsup

Seller is offering $1,500 including delivery and installation. 3-piece slate.

I can also just purchase the table alone and have it installed by a reputable mechanic. But I'm not sure if that will reduce the price or not, I have to find out. Seller is saying payment is not due until installation is complete.

That’s along the lines of what I had. If it’s in decent condition and set up well it will work. You will have to evaluate the seller and how well they can set it up etc….

 

[trob]

I am highly against 8 foot tables. They always seem to have sloppy pockets. They aren’t long enough to really force you to get your stroke out playing 9 ball but big enough that when playing 8 ball you don’t have many clusters so it’s child’s play. Not to mention your lines are out of whack. If you can’t fit a 9 get a 7 . I would be fine getting a nice valley style tables and Tightening up the pockets with some penguin rails. Generally the tables you talked about our home tables for casual players. I don’t know your skill level but for me playing on those style tables isn’t all that fun.

 

[trob]

Yeah.. there is always someone that

buy a good, very good, used table. they never wear out. and you can save a bunch on the front end of the deal. Let someone else eat the first year's depreciation. Find a motivated seller, i.e. somebody who is moving and can't take the table with them.

thought it was a great idea to buy a pool table and then it just sits in the way and they want to sell it cheap to get rid of it lol

 

[mikemosconi]

I have owned three home tables and I am presently looking for my fourth table for my new home. I have been at this since 1984 with home tables so my experience along these lines is very extensive. Here are my main thoughts for your particular situation:

1. Stay with Brunswick Gold Crown, A.E Schmidt, a quality older AMF, or possibly Diamond.
2. Find the very best table installer/ mechanic in your area BEFORE you worry about the table itself- esp. since you want pocket alterations.
3. Decide what size table you will be competing on and mirror that size for your home choice.
4. Since you have serious competition desires- and you want pocket alterations to your table- you simply must marry the table to the table mechanic - UP FRONT- discuss all table alteration options with your mechanic - as he should be totally involved in your table selection.
5. Once you both agree on a table selection, have all the alteration work done as part of your initial table installation- calling someone in down the road to alter your table as you desire may lead to surprises that may reveal your existing table to be the WRONG choice or become so costly that you have life long regrets.
6. Do not buy a disassembled table unless your table mechanic plans to replace the cushions bc you will have no idea of the rail speed on a dis assembled table- people lie all the time about when rubber was replaced on tables- in my experience.

Lastly, Don't rush this decision! it is a fairly expensive purchase, it is NOT a choice that can be changed easily once installed, tables that play as you desire bring lifelong joy- tables that do not play as your desire bring lifelong REGRETS- I have been on both ends of the spectrum- please believe what I am telling you.

 

[GoldCrown]

I am thinking of pulling the trigger on this:

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I will eventually change the cloth and rails later on.

@JPB2 @jeephawk @MitchAlsup

Seller is offering $1,500 including delivery and installation. 3-piece slate.

I can also just purchase the table alone and have it installed by a reputable mechanic. But I'm not sure if that will reduce the price or not, I have to find out. Seller is saying payment is not due until installation is complete.

Set ups run about $750 lately...Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Delivery is another story. $1500 total price...The installer is most likely banger grade.

 

[jeephawk]

I am thinking of pulling the trigger on this:

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I will eventually change the cloth and rails later on.

@JPB2 @jeephawk @MitchAlsup

Seller is offering $1,500 including delivery and installation. 3-piece slate.

I can also just purchase the table alone and have it installed by a reputable mechanic. But I'm not sure if that will reduce the price or not, I have to find out. Seller is saying payment is not due until installation is complete.

Is the Seller saying not due until installation complete in another communication? The ad says due on delivery but sounds like the Seller must have delivery and install covered with someone in some way(s). I'd still advise seeing if there is someone in the area you could have along when you take a look to evaluate it, but if the slates are good and it plays level and the cushions check out when you test it, I think you'd enjoy it very much. Still down to having someone you have confidence in help you check it out and give it a good test and perhaps install it (and maybe the person the Seller has in mind has a good rep but I'd agree with the above, could just be a non-mechanic friend).

 

[GoldCrown]

Is the Seller saying not due until installation complete in another communication? The ad says due on delivery but sounds like the Seller must have delivery and install covered with someone in some way(s). I'd still advise seeing if there is someone in the area you could have along when you take a look to evaluate it, but if the slates are good and it plays level and the cushions check out when you test it, I think you'd enjoy it very much. Still down to having someone you have confidence in help you check it out and give it a good test and perhaps install it (and maybe the person the Seller has in mind has a good rep but I'd agree with the above, could just be a non-mechanic friend).

It would difficult to test the table as it has been moved and most likely not level. How old is the table... I'd be concerned with the cushions...

 

[boogieman]

I'm looking to pull the trigger and finally buy a pool table. However, I'm not willing to dish out the funds for a Diamond at the moment.

I've been scouring Facebook marketplace for tables in Colorado but all I'm seeing is furniture style tables that are meant for casuals and not a competitive player.

My loft only has room for a 7ft or 8ft, as a 9ft would force me to use a short cue which I don't want to do. 9ft is out of the question.

My question is: when it comes to home tables, which brand would you recommend or think is the best? I will eventually change the felt and rails to reduce the pocket size to play a little tougher than the buckets they come with.

The 4 at the top of my list are Brunswick, Connelly, Olhausen and AMF Playmaster. Which one of these would be easier to customize to make them play tougher for competitive practice?

Any advice or recommendations would be appreciated, thanks.

Olhausen makes pretty good tables but the pockets are a complete shit show. Unless you are quite handy and want to spend a week fixing the pocket geometry I would not recommend an Olhausen. I fixed my pocket geometry and it was a great table after that, so they can be made to play correctly but it's quite an undertaking.

Brunswick are pretty good but not all models are created equal. I don't know much about the home tables but they generally play well.

 

[Logandgriff]

I have an Olhausen I am very happy with. After 35 years I added 3/16 inch shims and this removed pocket rattles. Beautiful wood and you can pick them up cheap from people who are moving. If not Olhausen try to find an A.E. Schmidt -- not too hard to find in the Midwest.

 

[Kris_b1104]

Give Dave Isaacs & Ryan Henry a call.

I gave Ryan Henry a call, he will be coming in the future to recover the table after it's been delivered and installed. Pretty stoked.

I am highly against 8 foot tables. They always seem to have sloppy pockets. They aren’t long enough to really force you to get your stroke out playing 9 ball but big enough that when playing 8 ball you don’t have many clusters so it’s child’s play. Not to mention your lines are out of whack. If you can’t fit a 9 get a 7 . I would be fine getting a nice valley style tables and Tightening up the pockets with some penguin rails. Generally the tables you talked about our home tables for casual players. I don’t know your skill level but for me playing on those style tables isn’t all that fun.

Yeah I hear you. I am somewhat of a shotmaker so a 7ft table will not be challenging enough. I also don't play 8ball so I'm not worried about clusters too much. I do agree about the lines being out of whack though, when it comes to kicking and banking. I will mainly use it to practice drills like the Mighty X and such, to prepare for tournaments, and the occasional casual games with my wife. I can't get a Valley because they don't disassemble fully to go upstairs.

I have owned three home tables and I am presently looking for my fourth table for my new home. I have been at this since 1984 with home tables so my experience along these lines is very extensive. Here are my main thoughts for your particular situation:

1. Stay with Brunswick Gold Crown, A.E Schmidt, a quality older AMF, or possibly Diamond.
2. Find the very best table installer/ mechanic in your area BEFORE you worry about the table itself- esp. since you want pocket alterations.
3. Decide what size table you will be competing on and mirror that size for your home choice.
4. Since you have serious competition desires- and you want pocket alterations to your table- you simply must marry the table to the table mechanic - UP FRONT- discuss all table alteration options with your mechanic - as he should be totally involved in your table selection.
5. Once you both agree on a table selection, have all the alteration work done as part of your initial table installation- calling someone in down the road to alter your table as you desire may lead to surprises that may reveal your existing table to be the WRONG choice or become so costly that you have life long regrets.
6. Do not buy a disassembled table unless your table mechanic plans to replace the cushions bc you will have no idea of the rail speed on a dis assembled table- people lie all the time about when rubber was replaced on tables- in my experience.

Lastly, Don't rush this decision! it is a fairly expensive purchase, it is NOT a choice that can be changed easily once installed, tables that play as you desire bring lifelong joy- tables that do not play as your desire bring lifelong REGRETS- I have been on both ends of the spectrum- please believe what I am telling you.

Wow, this is great! Luckily I found a reputable mechanic who will come to put Simonis 860 cloth and fresh cushions with extended rails to reduce the pocket size. So I am not too worried about buying a disassembled table. Appreciate your insight! This was helpful