high deflection cf shaft

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dendweller

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I wanted to try a carbon fiber shaft on the cheap so I bought one. I assumed that unless someone tried to make a cf shaft high deflection it would naturally be low as long as it didn't have a huge plug ferrule.

The one I got seems to hit good, weighs in at just about 4 ounces and surprisingly has quite high deflection. Substantially higher than a pred 314 which is what I've been playing with lately.

I've been thinking about what might cause this and I only come up with 2 things. A really heavy or large ferrule or possibly thick walls on the cf tube. I guess there's an outside chance that they weighted the front to get to 4 ounces but that seems unlikely. The ferrule itself is the plug style and only shows about a quarter of an inch.

I'm going to remove the ferrule and see what it looks like. Anyone have any other ideas what might cause this?

Thanks
 
dendweller said:
I'm curious, why mention tip, do you think one tip would deflect a lot more than another?
Thanks
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Read Wileys post. Then Rick's recent reply. Most tips are marked incorrectly You might get a hard that is really med or vice versa he is right. What was your method to test the deflection? Hhow long did you play with the cf shaft. A cf shaft is a different animal and a new learning curve. you won't learn it in a day.
Play with what you are use too, because if you change, your game takes a backdrop, until you learn the new
 
epoxypop said:
Read Wileys post. Then Rick's recent reply. Most tips are marked incorrectly You might get a hard that is really med or vice versa he is right. What was your method to test the deflection? Hhow long did you play with the cf shaft. A cf shaft is a different animal and a new learning curve. you won't learn it in a day.
Play with what you are use too, because if you change, your game takes a backdrop, until you learn the new
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Wrong thread
 
bigdaddydave said:
Wiley and Rick didn’t post here.
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It doesn't matter, their opinions weigh into the premise of this post Don't lose site of the premise The gentleman was asking about issues with the cf deflection, hightower commented about the tip , it's all related to the origininal post here leave it alone!
 
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If a cue has high deflection, it has high deflection. The tip isn’t going to make a noticeable difference. It’s all about the weight in the front of the shaft. Those posts make no mention of that.

Dont tell me to leave it alone. I’ll do what I feel and I’ll let the powers that be decide what to do with it.
 
Well, I don't know where Wiley and Rick's post are but where ever they are, this thread should probably be there as well. At least it's starting to look like it shouldn't be here.
 
dendweller said:
I'm curious, why mention tip, do you think one tip would deflect a lot more than another?
Thanks
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The tip changes a lot of things. Like how the cue feels to you and how it grips the ball which does change the hit and deflection. Unless you are measuring things with a robot you are letting us know how your brain perceives things compared to what you are used to. So unless the tip is the same you do not have a good starting point to know how the shaft really performs compared to your other shaft.
 
dendweller said:
I wanted to try a carbon fiber shaft on the cheap so I bought one. I assumed that unless someone tried to make a cf shaft high deflection it would naturally be low as long as it didn't have a huge plug ferrule.

The one I got seems to hit good, weighs in at just about 4 ounces and surprisingly has quite high deflection. Substantially higher than a pred 314 which is what I've been playing with lately.

I've been thinking about what might cause this and I only come up with 2 things. A really heavy or large ferrule or possibly thick walls on the cf tube. I guess there's an outside chance that they weighted the front to get to 4 ounces but that seems unlikely. The ferrule itself is the plug style and only shows about a quarter of an inch.

I'm going to remove the ferrule and see what it looks like. Anyone have any other ideas what might cause this?

Thanks
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Chances are, since it is a cheap CF shaft as you mentioned, it likely has a long heavy material plug for the ferrule. You just can't see it all since it's internal to the shaft.

You also don't know what the shaft is filled with, could be a very dense foam that goes right up to the ferrule.
 
Ģüśţāṿ said:
Chances are, since it is a cheap CF shaft as you mentioned, it likely has a long heavy material plug for the ferrule. You just can't see it all since it's internal to the shaft.

You also don't know what the shaft is filled with, could be a very dense foam that goes right up to the ferrule.
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Thanks. I also got some good info in another thread in the main forum. Starting on post 175
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Thread 'Deflection question, explain how a stiffer CF shaft has less deflection.'

I've played with wood shafts, OEM Schon in the early days, then Mezz WXC700's and Cat and Precat Predators for the last 45 years and am fine with them. I recently tried a friends Predator CF cue and it didn't do anything for me but granted I only hit about 3 racks.
As I understand it, a CF shaft is stiffer than a comparable diameter wood shaft and would/should therefore flex less when using R or L spin and therefore push the CB off line more, creating more deflection or squirt. Am I right in this assumption?

I understand end mass has something to do with it but if CF is stiffer than a...
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