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kingwang said:
I took a lesson with Filler recently and one of the things we worked on was decision making in various scenarios and it was fascinating to see his judgement and mental calculations at work. He's definitely done the work to train himself to make optimal decisions as often as possible.
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curious (if you don't mind sharing) how much a lesson with Filler costs? Sounds like it would be a great experience.
 
In other news:

Team Poland has defeated Team Philippines in the WPA Teams 10-Ball World Championship.
It is double elimination so they would have to fight back on the loser's side.
Team South Korea is leading 2 sets to 1 against Team USA (A). If they win one more, they will win the best out of 5 sets and defeat USA.


PLAYING FORMAT​

All matches are played in sets, race to 4, using winner-break format (winner of the rack breaks the next rack).

Set 1 – Team Lineup (3 players)
  • Played with the lineup of 2 same-sex + 1 opposite-sex athlete.
  • One player plays one rack, rotating through the lineup each rack.
  • Teams choose their lineup and can be played in any order, regardless of opposing player’s sex.
  • Race to 4, winner breaks.
Set 2 – Same-Sex Doubles
  • Two players of the same sex must play this set.
  • Race to 4, winner breaks.
Set 3 – Mixed Doubles
  • One male and one female athlete must play this set.
  • Race to 4, winner breaks.
Set 4 – Singles (if needed)
  • The player selected cannot be someone who played in both doubles sets (Set 2 and Set 3).
  • Race to 4, winner breaks.
Set 5 – Shootout (if needed)
  • Standard shootout format to determine the winner.
 
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Bummer! Good thing I didn't bet on any team because I picked the Philippines and USA - A to win and they both lost. Looks like Singapore and Japan might also lose so that will be a clean sweep picking the losers for me in Round 1 😆.

Kwon from South Korea is a monster! I have never seen him shoot before. USA-A missed some easy shots and South Korea got some rolls, but overall the team that played better won.
 
Kris_b1104 said:
In other news:

Team Poland has defeated Team Philippines in the WPA Teams 10-Ball World Championship.
It is double elimination so they would have to fight back on the loser's side.
Team South Korea is leading 2 sets to 1 against Team USA (A). If they win one more, they will win the best out of 5 sets and defeat USA.


PLAYING FORMAT​

All matches are played in sets, race to 4, using winner-break format (winner of the rack breaks the next rack).

Set 1 – Team Lineup (3 players)
  • Played with the lineup of 2 same-sex + 1 opposite-sex athlete.
  • One player plays one rack, rotating through the lineup each rack.
  • Teams choose their lineup and can be played in any order, regardless of opposing player’s sex.
  • Race to 4, winner breaks.
Set 2 – Same-Sex Doubles
  • Two players of the same sex must play this set.
  • Race to 4, winner breaks.
Set 3 – Mixed Doubles
  • One male and one female athlete must play this set.
  • Race to 4, winner breaks.
Set 4 – Singles (if needed)
  • The player selected cannot be someone who played in both doubles sets (Set 2 and Set 3).
  • Race to 4, winner breaks.
Set 5 – Shootout (if needed)
  • Standard shootout format to determine the winner.
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Interesting the teams aren't all the same size, most countries have 3 players, but some have went for 4 or 5 players
 
The young phenom Hayden Ernst is bulldozing some kid.

Watch the 6th rack (1st game of the 2nd set) and look at how he gets from the 4 to the 5, UNREAL!!! Super sick delayed draw shot.


Edit: The 18yr old Robert Orta has made a comeback and tied up the 2nd set hill-hill, so he might force a 3rd set if he wins this.

Holy crap this Orta kid is seriously impressive. Apparently he is only 605 Fargo but plays like a 700+

Orta was about to win the 3rd set 4-0 but shot a straight in 9ball and the cue ball followed into the pocket but didn't scratch, he got hooked by the nipple and couldn't see the 10ball. Ball in hand for Ernst to make it 1-3 and a chance to comeback.
 
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Wow, what an incredibly exciting and dramatic match between these two young guns. Hayden made the comeback to tie up the 3rd set and force a shootout. I was on the edge of my seat. I won't spoil it so you'll have to watch the ending yourself to see who wins. You won't be disappointed.
 
VVP said:
I noticed the following that happens a lot in trap shooting that happens during a shootout.
1. The player misses his/her first shot.
2. If a player misses, the other player misses the very next shot.
3. If a player is straight from the second diamond and could win on the fourth shot, he/she misses that shot.
These are just pressure points where your brain starts messing with your muscles. Keep these in mind when viewing a shootout next time ... it makes it more fun for me.
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Am I good or what! Check the shootoff between Juniors Hayden Ernst and Robert Orta on table 1, it followed the above almost to a T. Same thing for the Jasmin Ouschan and Chezka shootout in the women's quarterfinals.
 
skogstokig said:
i think yalin does. chinese manufacturer that makes brunswick.

these tables seem to play tough. looking at them the shelves don't look as deep as diamond, but they seemed to play every bit as tough as the PLP diamonds. would be interesting to hear a player's take on them
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I agree, it would be interesting to hear what the players have to say.

It would be interesting to see a video of one being assembled or disassembled.

I presume they are three piece slate construction.
 
Kris_b1104 said:
Wow, what an incredibly exciting and dramatic match between these two young guns. Hayden made the comeback to tie up the 3rd set and force a shootout. I was on the edge of my seat. I won't spoil it so you'll have to watch the ending yourself to see who wins. You won't be disappointed.
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Orta turned out to be not so bad. He did look a bit shaky in the first set.

Ernst has a Fargo of 694. Orta is at 606, but he looked better than that. The two have played before and are familiar with each other. Ernst beat Orta to win the 2024 BEF Junior championship.

Ernst is still playing, though. I want to see more of him. He's had a growth spurt in the last year or two and seems to be the most active junior in terms of playing around the country. Scott Frost has been talking him and trying to get him to some WNT events.

Lots of youngsters who have shown promise disappear in short order after finishing high school. I rarely see Joey Tate, for instance, or Lazaro Martinez. Some head off to college, others simply can't earn enough money to travel much.
 
The Predator events in Las Vegas appear well attended. One of the best attended Predator events I've seen. No doubt helps that tickets are free.

Ho Chi Minh last year might be the only Predator event I have seen with better attendance.

My sense is the Teams events draw a lot of fan interest. Seems like Predator has swooped in to create its own version of a World Cup of Pool now that WNT has rendered its own version defunct. Good move.
 
jbart65 said:
The Predator events in Las Vegas appear well attended. One of the best attended Predator events I've seen. No doubt helps that tickets are free.

Ho Chi Minh last year might be the only Predator event I have seen with better attendance.

My sense is the Teams events draw a lot of fan interest. Seems like Predator has swooped in to create its own version of a World Cup of Pool now that WNT has rendered its own version defunct. Good move.
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it's the CSI expo and league tourneys, pool player jamboree. that draws a lot of people and some of them watch the pro pool. they should build up better bleachers for final days though, more people deserved to see that filler v fedor match. jmho. maybe stu or bob jewett can give their opinion, but sure looked like more people wanted to watch
 
jbart65 said:
Orta turned out to be not so bad. He did look a bit shaky in the first set.

Ernst has a Fargo of 694. Orta is at 606, but he looked better than that. The two have played before and are familiar with each other. Ernst beat Orta to win the 2024 BEF Junior championship.

Ernst is still playing, though. I want to see more of him. He's had a growth spurt in the last year or two and seems to be the most active junior in terms of playing around the country. Scott Frost has been talking him and trying to get him to some WNT events.

Lots of youngsters who have shown promise disappear in short order after finishing high school. I rarely see Joey Tate, for instance, or Lazaro Martinez. Some head off to college, others simply can't earn enough money to travel much.
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Laz is still playing great but I don't think he gets out of Texas much. He gave me weight recently and earned some money.
 
jbart65 said:
Orta turned out to be not so bad. He did look a bit shaky in the first set.

Ernst has a Fargo of 694. Orta is at 606, but he looked better than that. The two have played before and are familiar with each other. Ernst beat Orta to win the 2024 BEF Junior championship.

Ernst is still playing, though. I want to see more of him. He's had a growth spurt in the last year or two and seems to be the most active junior in terms of playing around the country. Scott Frost has been talking him and trying to get him to some WNT events.

Lots of youngsters who have shown promise disappear in short order after finishing high school. I rarely see Joey Tate, for instance, or Lazaro Martinez. Some head off to college, others simply can't earn enough money to travel much.
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fargo has always had a problem with fast improving youngsters. been obvious on the euro scene for a long time.

didn't tate become a pastor / theologian or am i confusing him with someone else? it was something religious
 
Kris_b1104 said:
The young phenom Hayden Ernst is bulldozing some kid.

Watch the 6th rack (1st game of the 2nd set) and look at how he gets from the 4 to the 5, UNREAL!!! Super sick delayed draw shot.


Edit: The 18yr old Robert Orta has made a comeback and tied up the 2nd set hill-hill, so he might force a 3rd set if he wins this.

Holy crap this Orta kid is seriously impressive. Apparently he is only 605 Fargo but plays like a 700+

Orta was about to win the 3rd set 4-0 but shot a straight in 9ball and the cue ball followed into the pocket but didn't scratch, he got hooked by the nipple and couldn't see the 10ball. Ball in hand for Ernst to make it 1-3 and a chance to comeback.
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My eyes may have been playing tricks on me, but I swear on that shot where Orta got corner hooked the table rolled slightly off, and the at the last second the cue ball veered towards the pocket instead of going to the end rail for perfect position on the 9. Turned out it didn't hurt him, but it obviously spooked him for the next two games.
 
Taxi said:
My eyes may have been playing tricks on me, but I swear on that shot where Orta got corner hooked the table rolled slightly off, and the at the last second the cue ball veered towards the pocket instead of going to the end rail for perfect position on the 9. Turned out it didn't hurt him, but it obviously spooked him for the next two games.
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I just watched it back, you're right. The cue ball definitely rolled towards the pocket after he shot the 9 and hooked himself. Pretty crazy, he would've won 4-0 if not for that.
 
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