Best All-Around Production Cue for ~$1000 (Value, Playability, Durability, Support)?

I have a Peri PB-04 butt and a Rhino shaft. plays fantastic I think. Fits perfectly. Real inlays. come with an extension. total is close to 1000$. If I wanted to spend less I could have go for a Konllen butt with the rhino shaft. I'm OK with chinese products.
 
I haven’t read most of this thread, but a few of the post above were talking about if you added a carbon fiber shaft, it would put a price over $1000 for some Cues
But no one mentioned using a rhino carbon fiber shift, which is under $200
Rhino won't be the "best" option, it's a financial compromise...
You better save some money on the butt and get a better shaft. a $1000 budget will allow this.
 
Rhino won't be the "best" option, it's a financial compromise...
You better save some money on the butt and get a better shaft. a $1000 budget will allow this.
I'd better save a little on the shaft and have really nice inlays and wood than the opposite. depends what best "all around" means. I wouldn't trade my setup for a REVO + "simple" butt.
 
I prefer traditional looking cues. I like Joss cues quite a bit. The stuff I find ugly is more along the lines of every carbon fiber shaft ever put on a traditional cue. I ordered a Joss 20-37 with a 12.50 mm HP shaft from them last week. I have it now, and it was $857.44. Shipped the same day I ordered it, came with joint protectors and a polishing cloth.
 
I'd better save a little on the shaft and have really nice inlays and wood than the opposite. depends what best "all around" means. I wouldn't trade my setup for a REVO + "simple" butt.
That’s a first… well maybe not 🤣
 
I prefer traditional looking cues. I like Joss cues quite a bit. The stuff I find ugly is more along the lines of every carbon fiber shaft ever put on a traditional cue. I ordered a Joss 20-37 with a 12.50 mm HP shaft from them last week. I have it now, and it was $857.44. Shipped the same day I ordered it, came with joint protectors and a polishing cloth.
Current Joss models are not that traditional.
There are quite a few cues that I almost like but I hate the narrow points and the big gaps between them.
There are a few that look really nice but they are 5 points and I’m not sure how I feel about an uneven number of points
 
I prefer traditional looking cues. I like Joss cues quite a bit. The stuff I find ugly is more along the lines of every carbon fiber shaft ever put on a traditional cue. I ordered a Joss 20-37 with a 12.50 mm HP shaft from them last week. I have it now, and it was $857.44. Shipped the same day I ordered it, came with joint protectors and a polishing cloth.

Looks nice, you'll have to post pics when it arrives
 
I think this Rosewood Mezz looks nice, and made with all real wood, and real inlays.


J&J has it instock (they say), for $965. It is really all you need, if you want a great, and super solid hitting cue. And, they are made in Japan (not China), for whatever that might be worth to the buyer.

And, there is no staining in that cue. I hate it when they stain cues. Seems that Mezz might not do that. Like trying to make Maple look like Ebony, for example, which I see in Pechauer cues, for example.
I have played a few Mezz cues. They feel ok, but nothing Earth shattering. Fit and finish appears to be no better than the big players. The biggest issue is availability. The Mcdermott warranty is tough to beat.

Predators also have great resale, and sell very quickly.
 
I have played a few Mezz cues. They feel ok, but nothing Earth shattering. Fit and finish appears to be no better than the big players. The biggest issue is availability. The Mcdermott warranty is tough to beat.

Predators also have great resale, and sell very quickly.

I do not know about the finish, but as you have had a few Mezz cues, you should kniw how super tight they connected together. No other production cue on the planet fits together as tight as a Mezz.

I heard that Mezz is a small shop, and that is why they have availability issues. Low supply, and high demand.

I just love the idea of Japanese craftsmanship. Predator just seems cheap, and probably cares more about quantity over quality. I have read about their spray painted Veneers, on some of their lower end cues, in the past.

Why not buy from a great old family of cue makers (Miki of Mezz), who have been building cues since the 60's, in Japan. They probably have more experience building cues then most other cue makers. Surely more then any cue maker in Asia, I bet. They were the makers of the old Adam Balabushka cues, from Japan, for example.
 
Current Joss models are not that traditional.
There are quite a few cues that I almost like but I hate the narrow points and the big gaps between them.
There are a few that look really nice but they are 5 points and I’m not sure how I feel about an uneven number of points
I agree about the narrow points (unless they are "bridged") and gaps between them. Also not a fan of odd umbers of points.

For cues under $1,000, I agree with earlier posts that there are SPs that play great. I have a Frey SP that plays great and was my regular playing cue for several years.
 
I do not know about the finish, but as you have had a few Mezz cues, you should kniw how super tight they connected together. No other production cue on the planet fits together as tight as a Mezz.

I heard that Mezz is a small shop, and that is why they have availability issues. Low supply, and high demand.

I just love the idea of Japanese craftsmanship. Predator just seems cheap, and probably cares more about quantity over quality. I have read about their spray painted Veneers, on some of their lower end cues, in the past.

Why not buy from a great old family of cue makers (Miki of Mezz), who have been building cues since the 60's, in Japan. They probably have more experience building cues then most other cue makers. Surely more then any cue maker in Asia, I bet. They were the makers of the old Adam Balabushka cues, from Japan, for example.

I just find the Mezz designs to be super boring. If not for that I would totally consider buying one.
 
I do not know about the finish, but as you have had a few Mezz cues, you should kniw how super tight they connected together. No other production cue on the planet fits together as tight as a Mezz.

I heard that Mezz is a small shop, and that is why they have availability issues. Low supply, and high demand.

I just love the idea of Japanese craftsmanship. Predator just seems cheap, and probably cares more about quantity over quality. I have read about their spray painted Veneers, on some of their lower end cues, in the past.

Why not buy from a great old family of cue makers (Miki of Mezz), who have been building cues since the 60's, in Japan. They probably have more experience building cues then most other cue makers. Surely more then any cue maker in Asia, I bet. They were the makers of the old Adam Balabushka cues, from Japan, for example.
Why not buy from them? Because they are never in stock anywhere. Also, they do not feel any better (to me) than any of the other big name production cues. Claiming that no other cue on the planet fits together as tightly as a Mezz is just ridiculous. Please prove it, and not with just "trust me bro" reasoning. Let's see some data.
 
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