westcoast: how many would have attended or watched if it was only a women pro tour stop? plus the men's event was a world championship. there's probably your answer to the pay gap.
PBS St Louis 2026 (Men’s World 8 Ball Championship, Mixed Doubles, Women’s Open, Bank Pool), 1-8 April, Half Million Prize Fund
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not implying i would never have watched if it was just the women's. i acually tend to watch women's pool if it's predator and the top girls are playing
what a year he's having. insane.
Yes. However, the Women's 8-Ball World Championship last year paid $30,000 for the winner (Ouschan!). Maybe it will be more this year.
First and second place prize money:
Bank Pool -- $15,000 (Gorst), $9,000 (Shaw)
Mixed Doubles -- $40,000 (Seo/Zielinski), $20,000 (Fu/Bergman)
Women's Open -- $27,000 (Ouschan), $15,750 (Fu)
World 8-Ball -- $90,000 (Yapp), $42,000 (FSR)
I wonder what the viewership numbers are for the women vs the men for something like the World 8b. I personally would probably only watch a few of the top women players, whereas almost everyone in the men’s event is watchable to me.
Another factor is that they have to compete with the WNT for the men.
Seo Seoa and Brittany Miller also had chances to beat Jasmin and blew it.
You can literally look at YouTube. However, only the men were playing 8ball, the women were playing 10ball, and it wasn't a "world" title just a PBS "stop"...for the women.
Seems like you already answered your question regarding the viewership count.
Any yet there are those on here claiming the whole set gets run out all the time and the game is broken.
Im not sure how she got "the blonde bombshell" nickname either.
If the 2 events were playing at the same time, which one would the majority of people watch? Simple math
Hard to believe people don't understand.
Maybe this will make it easier.
If hamburger joint A sells 1 million hamburgers and B sells 50,000 all things being equal, which one gets more $$$?
Should B get the same amount of $ as A? NO
Not a fair comparison as the men's event was a world championship. A better comparison would be the previous Predator event, the Las Vegas Open, in which Filler, the men's champion got $45,000 and Wei, the women's champion, got $27,000.
The women are, at long last, making some solid prize money, more than they have ever made. Still, when Ewa Mataya was trying to combine the two major tours, women's pro pool was drawing as much fanfare as men's pro pool, so the case for equal prize money was on much stronger footing. Nobody would suggest that women's pro pool today has as much fanfare as men's pro pool, so the case for equal prize money is not as easily made.
I have followed women's pro pool since the formation of the WPBA in 1976, and I couldn't be happier to see that women's pro pool is thriving. These mixed doubles events have really helped to bring out the personalities of the women, too. As Badpenguin noted in post #271, who will forget the way Seo jumped into the arms of Wiktor Zielinski after they prevailed in the mixed doubles final? I think that her extremely demonstrative show of excitement surprised even Wiktor, who happily accepted the chance to lift and embrace her. She had brought the best out of him at the table and did so again when the job was finished. Bravo!
Let the good times roll for women's pro pool. All the props to Predator for its growing commitment to the women's game.
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In her heyday? Same as Duddy. Never have understood that one.Im not sure how she got "the blonde bombshell" nickname either.
When the pay debate comes up in this sport or that, I now just sit them out.
I can't see the revenue, ticket sales numbers or number of viewers. I have no way to judge where the money is, especially in pool. Only the promotors see that info, and they will make their judgments accordingly. If the men or women don't like it, they will have to take it up with Predator.
Personally, I'd watch women's 10-ball day and night over men's 8 ball.
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The term bombshell should have been retired permanently years ago. The etymology of the word is weird. A bomb shell is an empty sphere of metal. It does nothing on its own. It's only when you fill it up with gunpowder or other explosives that it turns into something other than an inert object. How it stopped being a military term is one of the wonders of language!
One of the older announcers can't help but refer to Duddy as the "Billiard Bombshell" every time he sees her. Every single time. Every single tournament. Never fails.
The younger announcers show more tact and never refer to her as such.
Jeremy Jones suggested in a recent WNT broadcast that the WCP of pool would be coming back, but no details were offered. MR really fumbled that one. It was my favorite of the invitationals.
Predator, to its credit, picked up the ball and ran with it. The competition between Predator and MR is really heating up.
Matchroom has done a better job of stacking events, as they have done in the US this year. They've done the same with the UK Open, WPC and Asian events later in the year. Only the European Open is lacking in that regard.
Yet Predator has found a winning formula in pairing several big events together AND in pairing the men and women together. The men and women really seem to enjoy playing with each other. No surprise, since there are so many pool couples these days. Fans seem to like it, too.
Actually, for years now, the "Billiard Bombshell" has been Emily Duddy's nickname. Hence, this is not a case of announcers having different styles. It is part of Emily's branding and I'm quite certain that she is happy to be referred to as such.
