Savannah “The RoadRunner” Easton using a wood shaft?

[Chili Palmer]

My personal opinion, and this is coming from someone who only plays with old school Huebler's and wood shafts, is that CF is simply more consistent. Whether it's low deflection or not is irrelevant, it's more consistent and that's where the money is. As mentioned, I have mainly played with Huebler's since the late 80's and I have tried a ton of CF shafts, they're just not for me. But at my age (apparently I'm elderly) I'm not interested in the work I would need to put in to convert to a CF shaft, I'm also not a fan of the black shafts, but that's a personal opinion. However, I do think it would be beneficial for younger players to use CF and I think Savannah switching to CF will only benefit her.

 

[DeeDeeCues]

...I'm not interested in the work I would need to put in to convert to a CF shaft, ...

Yeah, that is eight minutes of my life I'll never get back.

I switch all the time between wood and CF.

 

[Lowell]

My personal opinion, and this is coming from someone who only plays with old school Huebler's and wood shafts, is that CF is simply more consistent. Whether it's low deflection or not is irrelevant, it's more consistent and that's where the money is. As mentioned, I have mainly played with Huebler's since the late 80's and I have tried a ton of CF shafts, they're just not for me. But at my age (apparently I'm elderly) I'm not interested in the work I would need to put in to convert to a CF shaft, I'm also not a fan of the black shafts, but that's a personal opinion. However, I do think it would be beneficial for younger players to use CF and I think Savannah switching to CF will only benefit her.

Her game was clearly improving rapidly with the wood shaft, so I think it would be difficult to single out a carbon shaft helping her or not. I think that it really doesn't matter one way way or another, as proven by the world's best players using all types of shafts.

The best women's player under 25 is Seo Seoa, and she uses a wood shaft.

 

[Quesports]

True, until you play with a CF then you will see that this specific type of shaft will actually automatically help you with timing. I know its hard to imagine it. I was shocked as it actually does.

I am not here to sell anyone to play with CF, but its a reality that ppl who still have the lines of "Oh but but i love the feel of wood" will never understand this. I've had friends who are elderly, i'm speaking of 50-60 yrs of age, these fellas play at one poolhall for many many many years, most of them had been plateaued at one level where in rotation 9ball they pot 3-4 balls then miss a silly shot, maybe an inside english shot etc. Some of these fellas remained at these levels for 30 yrs or as long as i've known them. The moment they switched to CF and just within months they started running racks more consistently, these same guys can run 3 racks in a row now which they've never achieved on wood for their whole 30 yrs of daily playing pool.

Anyway I'm convinced about this and nobody can change my mind, whenever you've accepted the switch and accepted that its good for you, only then you will realize this fact. It is a matter of time, probably in 20-30 yrs nobody will ever touch wood again.

I’m 73 played pool since I was 14.

Because I am always willing to try new technology I gotta ask what CF playing shaft you like at this time? How about the guys at the pool hall that got better, what shafts are they using??

I am curious BTW not being a dick.
I have a Mezz Ex Pro shaft which is wood with a carbon fiber tube inside the wood. I get the feel of wood and some of the performance of CF. But not all…

 

[Chili Palmer]

Her game was clearly improving rapidly with the wood shaft, so I think it would be difficult to single out a carbon shaft helping her or not. I think that it really doesn't matter one way way or another, as proven by the world's best players using all types of shafts.

The best women's player under 25 is Seo Seoa, and she uses a wood shaft.

I'm a numbers/science guy and believe 100% that CF is more consistent then wood, it has to be, if made properly. Wood has grains, grains go different directions, grains have different thicknesses, grain has different density, you rotate it one way it will do X, you rotate it another way, it will do Y, hit it at one speed in a specific rotation it will do X, hit it at another speed in a different rotation it will do Y. Muecci's original red dot shaft focused on that. Do I think at a certain level of play it will make someone miss, no, but it may result in the CB ending up 1/8" from where they wanted it, and that can make a difference. As mentioned, I play exclusively with OLD wood shafts, I can't stand the feel of a newer wood shaft, I'm no world beater but I'm no slouch either, and wood is where it's at for me. But, in the end, scientifically speaking, CF (if made properly) is more consistent then wood. Prove me wrong?

Yeah, that is eight minutes of my life I'll never get back.

I switch all the time between wood and CF.

Good on ya, mate

 

[Chili Palmer]

Yeah, that is eight minutes of my life I'll never get back.

I switch all the time between wood and CF.

Honest question, are your wood shafts low deflection? If not, then maybe our shooting styles are different because when I go from my old school high deflection shafts to a CF shaft I will occasionally miss balls I shouldn't miss and my leaves aren't as accurate. I also don't have a lot of time with CF shafts and I'm sure if I played with them more my play would even out, but again, I simply prefer old school wood shafts.

 

[DeeDeeCues]

Honest question, are your wood shafts low deflection? If not, then maybe our shooting styles are different because when I go from my old school high deflection shafts to a CF shaft I will occasionally miss balls I shouldn't miss and my leaves aren't as accurate. I also don't have a lot of time with CF shafts and I'm sure if I played with them more my play would even out, but again, I simply prefer old school wood shafts.

Nah, the only nod to low deflection on my shafts is a shorter ferrule. I had a couple of LD maple shafts at different times, but didn't really see any difference, so I gave them away.

I really think it is more that I use so many different cues that I don't really have any adjustment time. For me different shafts are a lot like walking from pavement to concrete.

 

[Chili Palmer]

Nah, the only nod to low deflection on my shafts is a shorter ferrule. I had a couple of LD maple shafts at different times, but didn't really see any difference, so I gave them away.

I really think it is more that I use so many different cues that I don't really have any adjustment time. For me different shafts are a lot like walking from pavement to concrete.

Then that tells me you have way more experience moving between wood and CF than I have, and that's ok. It doesn't negate the fact that CF is inherently more consistent than wood. Prove me wrong?

 

[smoochie]

I’m 73 played pool since I was 14.

Because I am always willing to try new technology I gotta ask what CF playing shaft you like at this time? How about the guys at the pool hall that got better, what shafts are they using??

I am curious BTW not being a dick.
I have a Mezz Ex Pro shaft which is wood with a carbon fiber tube inside the wood. I get the feel of wood and some of the performance of CF. But not all…

I had mezz ex pro, decent shaft as a wood shaft but, try not to get the ignite either.

Just get a revo, if you're more into thicker shaft go 12.9mm revo, but since you've been playing with Ex pro just go with the 12.4 Revo. Here's the kicker tho, the first few weeks you are gona keep saying "Oh i dont like the sound, i dont like the sound i dont like the sound i dont like the sound"

Most of them do spam this comment over and over, or they replace the sound with feel. Anyways, keep shooting with it even if you dont like the sound, just get used to it...and talk to me again in 2-3 months of playing with it daily (Without switching back and forth to something else).

If you met the condition above, you'll come back here thanking me.

Oh also one quick trick for people that "Hate" the revo/cf sound, there's a way around it. Just install a tip which has a padding underneath to add one extra padding into the revo. -- revo already had a sound pad, but with a tip that has padding and if the tip is soft, that sound that you hate will disappear. Try for example a Sniper tip, booom sound is gone.

 

[Kris_b1104]

I had mezz ex pro, decent shaft as a wood shaft but, try not to get the ignite either.

Just get a revo, if you're more into thicker shaft go 12.9mm revo, but since you've been playing with Ex pro just go with the 12.4 Revo. Here's the kicker tho, the first few weeks you are gona keep saying "Oh i dont like the sound, i dont like the sound i dont like the sound i dont like the sound"

Most of them do spam this comment over and over, or they replace the sound with feel. Anyways, keep shooting with it even if you dont like the sound, just get used to it...and talk to me again in 2-3 months of playing with it daily (Without switching back and forth to something else).

If you met the condition above, you'll come back here thanking me.

Oh also one quick trick for people that "Hate" the revo/cf sound, there's a way around it. Just install a tip which has a padding underneath to add one extra padding into the revo. -- revo already had a sound pad, but with a tip that has padding and if the tip is soft, that sound that you hate will disappear. Try for example a Sniper tip, booom sound is gone.

What's your skill level?

 

[Quesports]

I had mezz ex pro, decent shaft as a wood shaft but, try not to get the ignite either.

Just get a revo, if you're more into thicker shaft go 12.9mm revo, but since you've been playing with Ex pro just go with the 12.4 Revo. Here's the kicker tho, the first few weeks you are gona keep saying "Oh i dont like the sound, i dont like the sound i dont like the sound i dont like the sound"

Most of them do spam this comment over and over, or they replace the sound with feel. Anyways, keep shooting with it even if you dont like the sound, just get used to it...and talk to me again in 2-3 months of playing with it daily (Without switching back and forth to something else).

If you met the condition above, you'll come back here thanking me.

Oh also one quick trick for people that "Hate" the revo/cf sound, there's a way around it. Just install a tip which has a padding underneath to add one extra padding into the revo. -- revo already had a sound pad, but with a tip that has padding and if the tip is soft, that sound that you hate will disappear. Try for example a Sniper tip, booom sound is gone.

Thanks for your advice. You’re spot on with my shaft diameter I like 12.4 13 is to large for me which is why I never considered the ignite.

I played with a 314 shaft a long time ago. I could do things with that shaft that astonished me. I agree with the Revo as a choice Predator has gained a reputation for a reason. Sounds like warped shafts don’t bother me at all. I only care about results. Make the ball get shape win game and watch the opponent rack the balls!

Thnx again!

 

[skor]

EXACTLY. These threads about what pros use or god-forbid 'those that stick to wood' queries are beyond tired. Look folks, all these top players could run out with a bar cue. They get EVERYTHING free and in most(ALL??) cases they are gettin jellied for using the: cue/shaft/chalk/glove/case you see them with. Same thing with golf: DO NOT base your equip. choice(s) on what some pro uses.

I don't care what they use in term of performance, I don't think that getting the same cue will make me better.
I am interested in some cues that pros used but mainly as an general interest in knowing, especially if it's a good looking cue, this comes from a point of a cue lover and not as a player.

 

[Lowell]

I don't care what they use in term of performance, I don't think that getting the same cue will make me better.
I am interested in some cues that pros used but mainly as an general interest in knowing, especially if it's a good looking cue, this comes from a point of a cue lover and not as a player.

Yeah I care about this stuff purely from a pool need perspective (and someone who appreciates cues as an art form), not because I think a shaft type makes me or anyone else a better player.

 

[smoochie]

What's your skill level?

I would consider myself decent, I run out when I should. I play once a week and still manage to put on some multiple racks if break/layouts are friendly enough. Pool is my third hubby, albeit life. Got work(my actual prof), got family to take care of(wife, kids), an elderly mother and dad that I am responsible for. As well as I play tennis/golf as my first and foremost hubby, then lastly its pool which is another game that I like. I play on Sundays night only, once a week.

Granted, I still put on 4-5 packs on occasion, at any given moment playing 9balls.

 

[Kris_b1104]

I would consider myself decent, I run out when I should. I play once a week and still manage to put on some multiple racks if break/layouts are friendly enough. Pool is my third hubby, albeit life. Got work(my actual prof), got family to take care of(wife, kids), an elderly mother and dad that I am responsible for. As well as I play tennis/golf as my first and foremost hubby, then lastly its pool which is another game that I like. I play on Sundays night only, once a week.

Granted, I still put on 4-5 packs on occasion, at any given moment playing 9balls.

Nice! What's your Fargo rate?

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

CF is latest, greatest super shaft after Predator, Black Dot, RedDot, OB, BO, PooPoo, and who can recall em alll.

IMHO if most Pros Playing with anything but Maple do so for User /Endorsement

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