profoundly stupid question

The responsibility of driving is much more serious than the damn table. The insurance company could show you the numbers regarding catastrophic loss and age of drivers on a curve. The higher rates for the young drivers reflects the odds. I think honor role status in high school got a slight discount on the rate.
Teach Your Children Well, is a favorite Hippy song.
 
jnwilliams said:
OK- I have a mancave/barndominium 150 yards from house that the Lord gives me great peace in. Diamond professional 8'. I take great care of my stuff...keep my pool room pretty spotless.......My 14 year old daughter had a few friends over and wanted to go shoot pool with her friends...without dad, of course......

What say ye?
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gregcantrall said:
The responsibility of driving is much more serious than the damn table. The insurance company could show you the numbers regarding catastrophic loss and age of drivers on a curve. The higher rates for the young drivers reflects the odds. I think honor role status in high school got a slight discount on the rate.
Teach Your Children Well, is a favorite Hippy song.
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I guess the subject (aside from safety) is responsibility. Respecting/taking care of property. I honestly beat the snot out of family cars and ruined them mechanically. No accidents. I thought doing burn outs were cool. Over extending the gears, etc. When I bought and paid for my first car things changed.
When I got the GC4 in 1998 my in-laws would come over. Father in law love playing. Mother In Law stroked like she was shoveling with a pitch fork. I could not say anything. I manned up....but came close to a breakdown😂. I was hoping she would hate the game. My wife's God-Kid comes over with her child... I have to lock the pool room door....she plays with everything. Also my neighbors kid banged on my door..he wanted to play. He did not want to listen he wanted to take hard hitting flyers....That did not work out.
 
jnwilliams said:
OK- I have a mancave/barndominium 150 yards from house that the Lord gives me great peace in. Diamond professional 8'. I take great care of my stuff...keep my pool room pretty spotless.......My 14 year old daughter had a few friends over and wanted to go shoot pool with her friends...without dad, of course......

What say ye?
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I'd let her but only when I was home and I'd get surveillance cameras covering the outside. Not inside. If my daughter wants to engage in shenanigans, better at home than away.
 
I have a son thats 18. We live outside the city, in a "village" that has arround 2k ppl.
About 2 or 3 yrs ago, during winter, he asked if he could bring some friends to play pool with, on the basement table, couse its cold outside. I said no problem.
They came, i set the rules, explained and showed the use of the equipment.
Now i call them winter regulars.
No problems, ...
 
VarmintKong said:
Why should that be a burden for a young lady or man to set a good example? I remind my son every time I drop him off somewhere to be a leader not a follower. Peer pressure is a bitch and kids make mistakes, but in the end we’re raising adults not children.
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Come on….get real…..at 14 years old, there is social peer pressure and lack of prior experience being responsible for the actions of her party guests that are also juveniles. She is a young teen that wants to mingle and have fun with her friends and it seems unrealistic to expect she’s be able to supervise and monitor the actions and behavior of her guests and still have a fun time. She’d more likely behave like a classroom monitor constantly checking and watching everyone to ensure she doesn’t disappoint her dad. It wouldn’t be a party and become more of a baby sitting of her friends which turns into a chore. Hang a remote camera so you can check on them & monitor a location pretty distant from your house.
 
My mother employed the illusion tactics in a different manner yet the lesson was uh learned. She only had one hearing ear and that needed the 1950s hearing aid in her glasses. So when I was voicing my objection far too long, she appeared to be flipping the battery holder to the open position disabling the device. So in my 8 year old mind it seemed appropriate to mutter BITCH as I turned to walk away. Can't remember the landing but the blow to the back of the head was significant.
 
jnwilliams said:
As I mentioned, she is an awesome child, and better than most 14 year olds I know, but I wouldn't want her driving on the road by herself at 14, either. She's worth more than a 1000 pool tables, but that doesn't mean I don't want to take care of my stuff and keep it the way I want to keep it. Guess that's why I posed the question. I see both sides of it. Your point is solid. It's just a pool table.
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Nobody is suggesting putting a 14y/o on the road alone. The point is that eventually she will be on the road alone, controlling two tons of potential death.

But the driving thing is meant only as a future responsibility and privilege.

Giving her trust and responsibility in a lower stakes environment (i.e. using a pool table alone with friends) helps with her understanding situational awareness, responsibility, and consequences for the behavior of the group.

As I said before, maybe there should be a few conditions. Supervise for the first half hour. Let them know you will pop in randomly. Tell them if there are any 'sword' fights going on, they will be escorted from the premises and made to sit off your property until they are picked up...and they will be sent a bill for the malicious damage caused.
 
jnwilliams said:
OK- I have a mancave/barndominium 150 yards from house that the Lord gives me great peace in. Diamond professional 8'. I take great care of my stuff...keep my pool room pretty spotless.......My 14 year old daughter had a few friends over and wanted to go shoot pool with her friends...without dad, of course......

What say ye?
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If you have to ask this question, I would have to say the answer is no. You already question their responsible nature.
 
Bavafongoul said:
Come on….get real…..at 14 years old, there is social peer pressure and lack of prior experience being responsible for the actions of her party guests that are also juveniles. She is a young teen that wants to mingle and have fun with her friends and it seems unrealistic to expect she’s be able to supervise and monitor the actions and behavior of her guests and still have a fun time. She’d more likely behave like a classroom monitor constantly checking and watching everyone to ensure she doesn’t disappoint her dad. It wouldn’t be a party and become more of a baby sitting of her friends which turns into a chore. Hang a remote camera so you can check on them & monitor a location pretty distant from your house.
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The type of post I'd expect from you.

Yes, they are juveniles. That means they aren't fully developed, but they are on their way. This is the exact time to let them learn and utilize responsibility. Something might get damaged. Too bad. That is what you signed up for when you decided to raise kids.

Don't spy on them. That is teaching them that someone else is always responsible while also showing they have no freedom. This world was better before everyone knew about every tiny bad thing that occurred in the world, before every intersection had cameras, when a kid could make a mistake and it didn't live on Flopbook or Tweenter, or Instacrap for eternity.

Let the kids be kids, make them responsible for their actions in this low-stakes environment.
 
TexasShooter said:
If you have to ask this question, I would have to say the answer is no. You already question their responsible nature.
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May be true and I don't disagree. This is where a little faith should come in. Give the kids a chance to answer that question. Tell them what is expected and give them the opportunity to live up to that.

I can't imagine having teens an still be questioning if they and their friends are civilized enough to be around furniture.
 
DeeDeeCues said:
May be true and I don't disagree. This is where a little faith should come in. Give the kids a chance to answer that question. Tell them what is expected and give them the opportunity to live up to that.

I can't imagine having teens a still be questioning if they and their friends are civilized enough to be around furniture.
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I’ve seen many adults at pool halls that sat on tables, placed drinks on tables, set cigars or cigarettes on the rails. Some adults don’t know how to treat the tables.
 
This brings back fond memories. While in high school I dated a young lady who had a beautiful home in Brentwood, TN with a bonus/game room. I was from the other side of the tracks, for sure (Antioch, TN). I was already a pool player by this time (at least I was good for my age and could beat all of my friends, but in the pool room still a slug compared to real players).

We had a really fun friend group that generally consisted of my degenerate male friends, along with this young lady and her girlfriends, along with her older sister (who was in love with my best friend).

She had a nice little 8 foot table with good chalk and house cues. She was always telling me how good her dad was. He got home from the office one day and she told him how nobody could beat me, so he came up to "show me a thing or two". I murdered him, LOL, showing him no respect (on the table). He was a competitive person (successful business man) and really liked that.

Her family was always fine with us playing there (we took good care of his table). Sometimes we would be out, and one of my friends would get a bug up his tail, and want to challenge me to a money match and we'd drive over to her house in Brentwood at random times, and the parents would let us come in and play, LOL. (Whether the girls were there or not). It was a good friend group. Her dad even gave me the keys to his brand new Chevy Blazer for Prom Night. I took my girl, her sister went with my best friend, plus a few other couples. Ahhh....the 90s.

Anyhow, will the girls even want to play? Let them play. It's only a pool table and some house cues. If you own a personal barndeminium just for your personal entertainment, I'm sure you can afford to recover the table, or replace a house cue if an accident happens. It's only STUFF. Let your daughter have fun and create some cool memories. Anyhow, that is my advice!
 
Matt_24 said:
This brings back fond memories. While in high school I dated a young lady who had a beautiful home in Brentwood, TN with a bonus/game room. I was from the other side of the tracks, for sure (Antioch, TN). I was already a pool player by this time (at least I was good for my age and could beat all of my friends, but in the pool room still a slug compared to real players).

We had a really fun friend group that generally consisted of my degenerate male friends, along with this young lady and her girlfriends, along with her older sister (who was in love with my best friend).

She had a nice little 8 foot table with good chalk and house cues. She was always telling me how good her dad was. He got home from the office one day and she told him how nobody could beat me, so he came up to "show me a thing or two". I murdered him, LOL, showing him no respect (on the table). He was a competitive person (successful business man) and really liked that.

Her family was always fine with us playing there (we took good care of his table). Sometimes we would be out, and one of my friends would get a bug up his tail, and want to challenge me to a money match and we'd drive over to her house in Brentwood at random times, and the parents would let us come in and play, LOL. (Whether the girls were there or not). It was a good friend group. Her dad even gave me the keys to his brand new Chevy Blazer for Prom Night. I took my girl, her sister went with my best friend, plus a few other couples. Ahhh....the 90s.
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Those parents saw the opportunity to be the cool parents and grabbed it with both hands. Good on them. They'll live long after they escape this mortal coil.
 
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