Ascension Carbon Fiber shaft.

lfigueroa said:
I think a lot of top players are getting their stuff for free.

And I still see high speed players using wood.

Lou Figueroa
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free stuff is NOT gonna help anybody win if the equipment is not good.
any sponsored player first test the equipment before signing anything and makes sure that the equipment is good enough for their needs.
some are going back but staying within the brand, like Biado that moved back to wood but stayed with Predator and Skyler that moved back to Avid but stayed with CueTec. there are more examples.
A lot of the players are using prototypes that are designed for them before hitting the market, so there is a joint effort, like the current Meucci CF shaft that Tyler Styer is using now, like the CueTec Cynergy that was developed with SVB, like the JFlowers SMO that was designed with Strickland, Morris and Orcollo, like Universal and Yapp and more.
So that excuse that they get free stuff so they have to play with it is simply invalid and wrong.
They get free stuff that they are comfortable with and feel and know that it's top notch and won't hurt their game.

There are still top pros and high speed players that use wood, but there are less of them each and every day that passes by...
How many of them are under 25 years old?
 
skor said:
free stuff is NOT gonna help anybody win if the equipment is not good.
any sponsored player first test the equipment before signing anything and makes sure that the equipment is good enough for their needs.
some are going back but staying within the brand, like Biado that moved back to wood but stayed with Predator and Skyler that moved back to Avid but stayed with CueTec. there are more examples.
A lot of the players are using prototypes that are designed for them before hitting the market, so there is a joint effort, like the current Meucci CF shaft that Tyler Styer is using now, like the CueTec Cynergy that was developed with SVB, like the JFlowers SMO that was designed with Strickland, Morris and Orcollo, like Universal and Yapp and more.
So that excuse that they get free stuff so they have to play with it is simply invalid and wrong.
They get free stuff that they are comfortable with and feel and know that it's top notch and won't hurt their game.

There are still top pros and high speed players that use wood, but there are less of them each and every day that passes by...
How many of them are under 25 years old?
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The history of sports is littered with plenty of athletes/players that switched equipment for an endorsement and *never* played the same.

Hard to turn down the pay check and free equipment -- especially pool players who are not well compensated to begin with.

Lou Figueroa
 
Jaden said:
I had filler and dimitris and some other top players asking me about it at Arizona. They'll take off. It took a while for LD shafts to take off when they first came out.
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Sure hope so.
Damn nice shafts, any way you slice it!!
You get the consistency of CF with very little power loss combined with the feedback and feel of the maple. Best of both worlds!!
 
Mensabum said:
I'm not a fan of carbon fiber, so I see no need to try Alex's. Especially at their price point.
I won't test drive a Ferrari either, even if I can afford it.
Just leaves one wanting...
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Do you know how much the Ascension CF are? I would have thought that’s a Ferrari too (or maybe a custom super car).
 
lfigueroa said:
Someday -- sooner than you expect -- you will be "the old people," lol.

Lou Figueroa
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At the Arizona open Corey was mentioning that he hardly recognized anyone there and that most them had no idea who he was. I think it was me, him, Max Eberle and Johnny Archer standing there. I said, "Yeah, unfortunately, we're the dinosaurs here. Most of the people here probably don't know that you were the original reason that they went to the nine on the spot either".
 
"Wood Feel".....that is a term that will be fading out.....Same thing happened in Golf in the 80s when the Taylor Made Burner came out....Very similar comments to this thread....just no internet back then. The term "metal wood" was always a bit funny to me.

I am not sure why there is this "feels like wood" race in the CF world......other than that is what the populous is familiar with and holding on to.....Eventually that will fade also and the CF will develop its own characteristics....One CF shaft will be more tuned for 1-pocket...another will be tuned more for rotation....wood feel will no longer be in the conversation.

However....good news is......I still have my old wood shaft I can pull out and play with whenever I feel the urge. ;)
 
GideonF said:
Do you know how much the Ascension CF are? I would have thought that’s a Ferrari too (or maybe a custom super car).
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The model I played with has a base of $450, or so I was told.
I didn't inquire further as to whether or not other varieties were available or their prices.
You might want to check online. Hope that helps.
It was a nice looking and very smooth stroking shaft. Even without a glove.😉Coloration was dark and consistent with no obvious twill weave pattern.
 
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BRKNRUN said:
"Wood Feel".....that is a term that will be fading out.....Same thing happened in Golf in the 80s when the Taylor Made Burner came out....Very similar comments to this thread....just no internet back then. The term "metal wood" was always a bit funny to me.

I am not sure why there is this "feels like wood" race in the CF world......other than that is what the populous is familiar with and holding on to.....Eventually that will fade also and the CF will develop its own characteristics....One CF shaft will be more tuned for 1-pocket...another will be tuned more for rotation....wood feel will no longer be in the conversation.

However....good news is......I still have my old wood shaft I can pull out and play with whenever I feel the urge. ;)
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I'm not so sure the 'wood feel' thing is going anywhere anytime soon. The fact that major cuemakers are altering their CF production models to more closely mimic wood speaks volumes to me.
 
BRKNRUN said:
"Wood Feel".....that is a term that will be fading out.....Same thing happened in Golf in the 80s when the Taylor Made Burner came out....Very similar comments to this thread....just no internet back then. The term "metal wood" was always a bit funny to me.

I am not sure why there is this "feels like wood" race in the CF world......other than that is what the populous is familiar with and holding on to.....Eventually that will fade also and the CF will develop its own characteristics....One CF shaft will be more tuned for 1-pocket...another will be tuned more for rotation....wood feel will no longer be in the conversation.

However....good news is......I still have my old wood shaft I can pull out and play with whenever I feel the urge. ;)
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I already designed it. It's called the AEM shaft. It stands for adjustable end mass. You can dial it to the pivot point and deflection that you want. I've prototyped it and verified that it works.
 
Mensabum said:
The model I played with has a base of $450, or so I was told.
I didn't inquire further as to whether or not other varieties were available or their prices.
You might want to check online. Hope that helps.
It was a nice looking and very smooth stroking shaft. Even without a glove.Coloration was dark and consistent with no obvious twill weave pattern.
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My Google skills failed me - I couldn’t find it.
 
Jaden said:
At the Arizona open Corey was mentioning that he hardly recognized anyone there and that most them had no idea who he was. I think it was me, him, Max Eberle and Johnny Archer standing there. I said, "Yeah, unfortunately, we're the dinosaurs here. Most of the people here probably don't know that you were the original reason that they went to the nine on the spot either".
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I did.
 
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