National and Gandy Cue History

[Chopdoc]

I'd like to have that HC-140. Rambow influence.

Well, I have one in ebony.

The National HC-140 is identical to the Gandy HC-140.

Can't tell them apart as far as I know.

But the ebony one I have is the only one I have ever seen. And I have some good documentation and provenance for it.


And did you see the post of the HC-140 I just got? Scroll past my pictured of the packaging. You will love it. LOL!

Post in thread 'Shipping cue'

Saturday at 2:43 PM

So, as some of you know I collect National and Gandy cues. I found a National or Gandy HC140. Vinyl veneers, aluminum shaft insert.

This is how it was packaged. How do you think the cue fared?

• Chopdoc

 

[WildWing]

Great thread, Doc. These are very historic, old-school cues.

 

[Chopdoc]

Great thread, Doc. These are very historic, old-school cues.

Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you.

It is a labor of love, and a passion for preserving the history.

I do plan to complete both the National and Gandy catalogs of that era.

The dream is to reproduce the flyer pictures.

 

[WildWing]

Thank you so much. That means a lot coming from you.

It is a labor of love, and a passion for preserving the history.

I do plan to complete both the National and Gandy catalogs of that era.

The dream is to reproduce the flyer pictures.

You're welcome. I've had at least a few cues made that resembled cues of the past, could have been Paradise, could have been Gandy. Simple points, no bumper, that's how old school cues were made in the day. I'll be interested to see how this thread goes.

All the best,
WW

 

[Chopdoc]

So, I have these pictures posted elsewhere, but to keep things together I'll post them here. Forgive me if it is redundant.

This was a shipping accident. I plan to have the cue reconstructed, all the breaks are on the glue lines. It is an HC-140.

An interesting point is that this gives us an opportunity to see the construction, which is pretty standard A joint construction, nothing special except the Vinyl veneers. I will note the forearm is a nice piece of BEM which contributes to my willingness to have it rebuilt. It is remarkable to see how nice some of the wood is in the cues. Real ebony, nicely figured BEM, Brazilian rosewood, cocobolo, and more. I do think these cues have been underappreciated.

 

[WildWing]

So, I have these pictures posted elsewhere, but to keep things together I'll post them here. Forgive me if it is redundant.

This was a shipping accident. I plan to have the cue reconstructed, all the breaks are on the glue lines. It is an HC-140.

An interesting point is that this gives us an opportunity to see the construction, which is pretty standard A joint construction, nothing special except the Vinyl veneers. I will note the forearm is a nice piece of BEM which contributes to my willingness to have it rebuilt. It is remarkable to see how nice some of the wood is in the cues. Real ebony, nicely figured BEM, Brazilian rosewood, cocobolo, and more. I do think these cues have been underappreciated.

I imagine you had it repaired?

 

[Chopdoc]

I imagine you had it repaired?

I just got it today.

Assessing all that now. LINK

Thinking Proficient or Ryan Theewen.

Ryan experimented with adhesives for vinyl veneers years ago. And he is a master of repair.

 

[Chopdoc]

I imagine you had it repaired?

This right here is what makes the incident a disaster.

 

[Chopdoc]

Another fact about this HC-140, it has the name Dick Antonini engraved in the butt, I am guessing the original owner. Of course, I would love to track down that info. The cue came out of Perris, California, I feel likely sourced from a retirement community there. I am working on one lead at the moment. We will see how that turns out.

 

[WildWing]

I just got it today.

Assessing all that now. LINK

Thinking Proficient or Ryan Theewen.

Ryan experimented with adhesives for vinyl veneers years ago. And he is a master of repair.

Yep, I think either would be good. I'm more familiar with Scot at Proficient, as I've had him do some work for me. He's probably most known for refinishing, but he's restored some really busted up cues as well.