PBS Women's 9 Ball World Championship

i don't think chezka will ever have a complete game. these commentators mark white and tim le reuter will have the same complains in 5 years. but chezka will have a couple more world championship trophies. jmho.
Probably not. I've seen scant progress the last few years. She is what she is, and apparently OK with that.
 
Chezka reminds me of a young Ronnie O’Sullivan in snooker. Massively talented, played very fast, made everything. And lost whenever he didn’t have his A game. Poor safety and bad mental game.

His father hooked him up with a former champion Ray Reardon who was renowned for his safety and strategy. It changed his game and Ronnie became the best to ever do it.

Here is an interview from Ronnie about that.


He’s said in other interviews that he used to think about safety as boring, but Ray showed him it was a game itself - how to get the best safety.

Living in the country with the best safety players in the world, I’m sure she could find someone to coach her up, but I have to assume she just doesn’t want to.

She definitely needs to spend some time focusing on her defense. That being said, I personally think the break is what got Chezka in this match. She had some good runouts that more than likely would've boosted her confidence but then she'd get nothing on the break.

Either way, Seoa played an amazing match and deserves the credit for easily taking it down.

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Jeez, Seo Seoa just put on an absolute clinic. Ran 4 racks in a row to close the match out.

Also, I like that Wei gave her a hug at the end instead of doing that fake smile + brief handshake thing that so many players do when they lose.
 
Jeez, Seo Seoa just put on an absolute clinic. Ran 4 racks in a row to close the match out.

Also, I like that Wei gave her a hug at the end instead of doing that fake smile + brief handshake thing that so many players do when they lose.
But why not let her pot the 9 ball in?

I really hate it when opponents concede before the final ball is potted.

Players deserve to have that winning feeling of potting in the 9 ball.
 
i don't think chezka will ever have a complete game. these commentators mark white and tim le reuter will have the same complains in 5 years. but chezka will have a couple more world championship trophies. jmho.
Yes, while there was once just one world championship in women's pool singles, there are now three. One day somebody will exceed Allison Fisher's four world championships, but she'd have probably had ten or more had the World 10ball and World 8ball existed back in her day.

At 27, Chezka still seeks her first WPA World 9ball. Add to that that Fisher has a gold medal at the World Games and Chezka does not and Fisher also won a de facto World Championship in straight pool at the 2000 US Open 14.1, which probably featured the toughest field in the history of women's 14.1.

World championships aren't what they used to be. In my books, Chezka is unworthy of inclusion in women's G.O.A.T. discussions, although that could easily change.
 
Yes, while there was once just one world championship in women's pool singles, there are now three. One day somebody will exceed Allison Fisher's four world championships, but she'd have probably had ten or more had the World 10ball and World 8ball existed back in her day.

At 27, Chezka still seeks her first WPA World 9ball. Add to that that Fisher has a gold medal at the World Games and Chezka does not and Fisher also won a de facto World Championship in straight pool at the 2000 US Open 14.1, which probably featured the toughest field in the history of women's 14.1.

World championships aren't what they used to be. In my books, Chezka is unworthy of inclusion in women's G.O.A.T. discussions, although that could easily change.

no doubt allison would have won a lot more.

chezka is unlikely to change her ways, but i would think she'll win a few more world championships. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

she's currently in top of the azb moneyboard (and top 10 both genders), although that will change tomorrow.
 
no doubt allison would have won a lot more.

chezka is unlikely to change her ways, but i would think she'll win a few more world championships. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

she's currently in top of the azb moneyboard (and top 10 both genders), although that will change tomorrow.
Chezka's a great player, a generational performer. It is only because she has Allison Fisher level talent that I tend to view her as having underachieved.

Chezka has the talent to have dominated her generation the way Balukas and Fisher dominated their respective eras of pool, and those inclined to give her a pass because it's harder to dominate today are misguided. Chezka could have been, even should have been, head and shoulders above the pack in women's rotation pool. No woman has ever run the table at the level Chezka consistently demonstrates.

If Chezka had been a strong moves game player like a Karen Corr, I think she would have been able to reach a Fargo of 810-820. Really!
 
Should be quite a final between two of the five best players in the world.

Agreed. I primarily watch women's pool (and juniors) and looking forward to this matchup. If Seoa keeps playing the way she has I think she'll take it but, she can't give anything away or Rita will capitalize on it for sure.
 
Agreed. I primarily watch women's pool (and juniors) and looking forward to this matchup. If Seoa keeps playing the way she has I think she'll take it but, she can't give anything away or Rita will capitalize on it for sure.
Yeah, sounds about right. I think Rita has slightly better skills than Seo but Seo is in her top form right now and will be a tough opponent. It's not an easy match to pick. Seems a coin toss.
 
Chezka's a great player, a generational performer. It is only because she has Allison Fisher level talent that I tend to view her as having underachieved.

Chezka has the talent to have dominated her generation the way Balukas and Fisher dominated their respective eras of pool, and those inclined to give her a pass because it's harder to dominate today are misguided. Chezka could have been, even should have been, head and shoulders above the pack in women's rotation pool. No woman has ever run the table at the level Chezka consistently demonstrates.

If Chezka had been a strong moves game player like a Karen Corr, I think she would have been able to reach a Fargo of 810-820. Really!
Understood we all have higher expectations for her because of her otherworldly natural talent, but c'mon now. She is already a 3-time World Champion.

This talk about Chezka reminds me of Nadal's "If, if, if..." interview when being asked if Nick Kyrgios (regarded as having the most natural talent of any tennis player) had the same mentality as Nadal....


But the one difference between Kyrgios and Chezka is that Krygios never won a major. Again, Chezka has 3 WPC titles under her belt.
 
Understood we all have higher expectations for her because of her otherworldly natural talent, but c'mon now. She is already a 3-time World Champion.
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Yup, well said. We're being tough graders here.

She's a great player with a solid resume. It is only because she is the best runner of the table in the history of women's rotation pool that we are allowed to expect more. Back in the days when there was just the World 9ball. Allison Fisher won four, Han Yu won three and Shasha Liu won three and Kelly Fisher won two. The World 9ball is still the greatest jewel in the crown that is women's pro pool, and Chezka has yet to win it. She has just two world championships in rotation pool, an unfathomably small number given her talent. Maybe she's satisfied with that, and maybe you are, but, in my honest opinion, neither of you should be.

With three WPA World Championship events every year and also the World Games. I believe we'll, one day, see a woman pro collect ten world championships, and I'm still not sure that, when it happens, I'll rate it above Allison's five (four World 9ball and one World Games gold medal) when it happens.

Chezka is one of the game's true superstars. Nobody is suggesting otherwise, but her win rate at the majors does not nearly measure up against the greatest legends of women's pool.
 
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Yup, well said. We're being tough graders here.

She's a great player with a solid resume. It is only because she is the best runner of the table in the history of women's rotation pool that we are allowed to expect more. Back in the days when there was just the World 9ball. Allison Fisher won four, Han Yu won three and Shasha Liu won three and Kelly Fisher won two. The World 9ball is still the greatest jewel in the crown that is women's pro pool, and Chezka has yet to win it. She has just two world championships in rotation pool, an unfathomably small number given her talent. Maybe she's satisfied with that, and maybe you are, but, in my honest opinion, neither of you should be.

With three WPA World Championship events every year and also the World Games. I believe we'll, one day, see a woman pro collect ten world championships, and I'm still not sure that, when it happens, I'll rate it above Allison's five (four World 9ball and one World Games gold medal) when it happens.

Chezka is one of the game's true superstars. Nobody is suggesting otherwise, but her win rate at the majors does not nearly measure up against the greatest legends of women's pool.
I don't think one can both agree the women's game has the deepest, toughest field ever, and hold major win rate against any modern player.

Chezka having "few" world titles is a testament to how talented today's players are.
 
I don't think one can both agree the women's game has the deepest, toughest field ever, and hold major win rate against any modern player.

Chezka having "few" world titles is a testament to how talented today's players are.
It's no harder to dominate today than it was in Allison Fisher's day, if you have the talent, and Chezka does.

Allison regularly faced fields that included future BCA Hall of Famers Karen Corr, Ewa Laurance, Loree Jon Jones, Jeanette Lee, Robin Bell Dodson, Belinda Bearden Calhoun, Gerda Hofstatter, and Kelly Fisher, not to mention future hall of famer Ga Young Kim, and borderline hall of fame caliber players like Vivian Villareal and Helena Thornfeldt. With a loaded field in every event and with as many superstars as we find today in the late rounds of every event, Allison still won more than 40% of the majors in her decade of complete dominance.

Had Chezka developed the complementary skills (defense, kicking, jumping, tactical judgment, and pushout skills) to go with her elite break and "best of all time" rotation pool runout skills, she would have had the kind of success that Allison had. She isn't winning more majors at rotation pool than the other elite players around her, and she should be, for she is as far above them in talent as Allison was over most of her contemporaries.

Chezka is just one of many favorites at the majors in the women's game, and that's because she has not developed as a player as she should have. She gifts a few too many racks to opponents with errors in decision making, tactical shot selection, tactical execution and general risk management. Her talent is well above the others, but these handouts explain why she has just two world championships in rotational pool, and not even one at the most prestigious of them, namely the World 9ball. She is also without a title in either 9ball or 10ball in 2026.

What makes all of this even more puzzling is that the Philippines has probably produced more than two thirds of the best tacticians of the last 30 years in men's pool, as well as an elite tactician on the women's side named Rubilen Amit, so the resources to develop were always readily available to Chezka.
 
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Three sets needed to win the title. It could be a long match, but it should make for some nice viewing. I will do my best to get up early enough to watch it live.
 
Seoa and Rita have had some awesome matchups in the past. I can recall both of them losing by playing sub-par in semis and finals, but not against each other. This will be a great final. I pick Seoa just because Rita recently won a major and neither player is an Allison (yet). I love watching both of them.
 
Seoa and Rita have had some awesome matchups in the past. I can recall both of them losing by playing sub-par in semis and finals, but not against each other. This will be a great final. I pick Seoa just because Rita recently won a major and neither player is an Allison (yet). I love watching both of them.
Yup, two likeable players for sure. May the best woman win.
 
no doubt allison would have won a lot more.

chezka is unlikely to change her ways, but i would think she'll win a few more world championships. sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

she's currently in top of the azb moneyboard (and top 10 both genders), although that will change tomorrow.
It was what it was? :ROFLMAO:

The obstacles are always active and non linear.
 
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