Zerksies
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I would hope that the OP knows the basic fundimentals
Any tips for consistently shooting with follow through?
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desertfox14.1
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Bob Fancher, author of Pleasures of Small Motions, states the pool stroke should be a "beautiful throwing motion". 'I abhor the feeling of 'tossing' my stroke...do it too often when under pressure...and, like the OP, can't seem to find the stroke I had in my youth that seemed almost effortless.
Any suggestions of other metaphors of how it SHOULD feel would be appreciated.
BobbyD963
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Touché. However, I have been out of the game for a little bit, so knowing the fundamentals and executing them properly are two different things.
One word, "smooth". I was jerking the start of the last forward stroke for years, A gradual start to that stroke seems very important to me. Of course we can keep backing that up. A smooth transition. Smoothly slowing before the transition. A smooth start from addressing the cue ball.
Sometimes it seems to me that all good things start from smooth.
Hu
Try having your tip on the felt on every shot.You could also post a clip of you playing which would make it easy to see the culprit of your problem.
Agreed - for a pendulum pinned elbow stroke, your follow through is full when your tip hits the cloth and your grip hand runs in to your chest.
follow through dosent matter one bit. yes thats right .
its deceleration of the stroke before it i hits the cue ball, that is the problem.
follow through helps stop that, but you can follow through while still decelerating.
****best to have a constant or very slightly accelerating speed throughout your final stroke till past the cueball.
its deceleration of the stroke before it i hits the cue ball, that is the problem.
follow through helps stop that, but you can follow through while still decelerating.
****best to have a constant or very slightly accelerating speed throughout your final stroke till past the cueball.
On mattering, it's easy to fixate on striking the cue ball - why beginners may not develop a practical follow through.
What matters about visualizing the impact is it culminates in a burst of unspecific energy. Left as is, anything dissipating from this event becomes the follow through; including the anticipatory pause for the results to result.
Think past the cue ball. Gauge the tip travel for a point 2" past the standing cue ball. Done this way, the cue ball is set in motion almost incidentally - and as accurately as you set the finish point.
That ^^^^ is just a drill. Practice it.
What matters about visualizing the impact is it culminates in a burst of unspecific energy. Left as is, anything dissipating from this event becomes the follow through; including the anticipatory pause for the results to result.
Think past the cue ball. Gauge the tip travel for a point 2" past the standing cue ball. Done this way, the cue ball is set in motion almost incidentally - and as accurately as you set the finish point.
That ^^^^ is just a drill. Practice it.
thats a good tip for you right there.
and concentrate on a level speed all the way. a speed getting fast or slower negates your ability to accurately hit the cueball with the speed you plan for position. it may come close but thats why so many come a little short or long.
Good point about speed. In the smattering of conversations I had with Little Al, the strongest point he made (and one I won't forget)
He said, "The ball is made. Think speed."
He said, "The ball is made. Think speed."
I sometimes think of this as shooting the far/back side of the cue ball. Similar to with punching, where the tip is to go for the "back of the head".
I tried level speed a handful of times over the years. I never was able to get it to work. If I try to hit at a constant speed I am usually decelerating when I hit the cue ball. (I do know decelerating isn't a word but everyone understands it!)
If someone is able to maintain a level speed at the speed they need, it should work great! For me, I try for slight acceleration when I hit the cue ball.
Hu
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Ah, yes, but for the pedantic among us….
Decelerating is the present participle of decelerate
On with the hair splitting, it isn't or hasn't been for many decades a valid engineering or scientific term if that suits you better. According to the scientific guidelines, you are always accelerating in one direction or the other. Never saw it myself but neither "decelerate" or any of it's derivatives was proper to use in engineering and scientific writing. Figured if I didn't mention it, somebody else would!
Once upon a time I wrote and edited scientific papers. "decelerate" was a term we didn't use. A quick look turned up the information below. More digging would turn up reams of documentation I suspect. Been over twenty years since I have done any serious technical writing. Back then we couldn't use the word. Kinda like the words "ain't" or "kinda"! Everybody knows what we mean but we still don't use the word in technical writing, or didn't in my day.
According to the protocols of the day, there was positive and negative acceleration, one or the other if something was changing speed. Deceleration wasn't a proper term. Using it was a quick way to get your writing redflagged.
There are entire sets of dictionaries. Always wanted a set if I ran across one cheap. I have seen sets of dictionaries that were as bulky as the Encyclopedia Britannica. I suspect there are lots of words in there that aren't considered proper.
I'll continue to use "decelerate" on a pool forum when convenient. If I ever send another proposal to NASA I still won't use it, or "won't" either!!(grin) In technical terms deceleration is negative acceleration, a bit of knowledge few if any pool players will ever need to know!
Now on to important things: How many angels can stand on the head of a pin?
Hu
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No such thing as decelerating only acceleration?
We tend to avoid the term "decelerating," because the temptation is to assign that term to any problem where the acceleration is negative. Just because the acceleration is negative doesn't necessarily mean the thing is slowing down. If the velocity is also negative, then a negative acceleration means it's speeding up. More on reddit.com