I'm calling no foul here, thoughts?
Edited because I had the wrong time stamp.
Edited because I had the wrong time stamp.
Did Skylar Hess get the wrong call here?
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There's a couple of different angles, I think she got screwed. The way Margarita is playing, I'm not sure it would've made a difference but going from 3-1 to 4-0 is huge.
The reflection was dead stable.
From our angle.
I see no evidence of any contact. I suspect the ref saw a reflection change due to the proximity of the cue and his specific angle and thought it was contact.
It happens every so often in league. One guy from one angle swears there was movement, and no one else agrees or even thinks it was close.
So, yes, she got hosed.
In the first view, I thought maybe her bridge hand touched it, but from another view her hand is several inches away.
On that kind of shot, the ref should be positioned so he can see daylight between the shaft and the ball, even when they are very close. We didn't have that camera angle, but I saw no evidence of a foul. I think the moving reflection as mentioned above was the problem.
On that kind of shot, the ref should be positioned so he can see daylight between the shaft and the ball, even when they are very close. We didn't have that camera angle, but I saw no evidence of a foul. I think the moving reflection as mentioned above was the problem.
That's exactly what I was thinking, he should've been on the other side of the shot.
I think 100% IF they are going to use cameras, they need to give the player the ability to challenge a call or 2 calls per set. If you are right, you keep the challenge, if you're wrong you lose the challenge and the call goes the other way.
i watched that clip a couple times and i kept thinking no foul too, the shaft is right next to the ball but i could not see it actually touch lol. i have had that same close call at end pocket where it looks like a touch from one side and clean from the other. would you give the players a challenge on a call like this like u12armresl said or would that just slow the match down too much
Can you elaborate on your experiences at the end pocket, without saying end pocket.
Why do you think it would slow the match down?
lol ok no name then, it was just a regular night at my usual spot and the shaft was right beside the ball and from one side it looked like a touch and from the other side it looked clean. i think a challenge would slow things down because you would get guys asking for a review on every close call, do you think a limit like one challenge a match would fix that
I saw that live. I didn't see any movement, but it looked like the ref was right on it, and he was very confident she had touched it with something. You can tap the ball you're over without moving it.
She didn’t even attempt to question the referee’s call and went right back to her seat after the call, which leads me to believe she must’ve known she touched it, even though it is not evident in the video.
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Cord
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I was watching it live, and I thought she got hosed. I sorta suspect she's either too composed, or maybe a little initimidated (or maybe a little of both) to raise a stink in a live-streamed final.