What do you change first when the break keeps coming up dry?

that is a good call, i have really only practiced one break spot and one speed so i have no backup when it goes dry. gonna work on a second spot with a softer speed this week at end pocket, which spot do you start with when you are trying a new one
The reason for a couple of different speeds from the same spot is that the playing conditions (rack, humidity, cloth age) play a significant role how the table is breaking. So at least you should have a plan what is your goal in each break. Don’t add deviations just for the sake of deviations without a plan. Pay attention what is happening in each break and which balls are good candidates to make. And make sure you have your cueball on a string.
 
The reason for a couple of different speeds from the same spot is that the playing conditions (rack, humidity, cloth age) play a significant role how the table is breaking. So at least you should have a plan what is your goal in each break. Don’t add deviations just for the sake of deviations without a plan. Pay attention what is happening in each break and which balls are good candidates to make. And make sure you have your cueball on a string.
that makes sense, i was just changing stuff with no real plan lol. gonna pick one goal for each break this week and watch where the cueball ends up, do you pick the ball you want to make before you break or just read it after
 
love that routine, a diamond down and half a diamond left with just a bit below center is way more specific than what i have been doing. i am gonna try that long bridge too, do you stick with that same spot even when the rack is tight or do you move it around
Only when Im not making any balls on the break like 3 successive times when I'm breaking. Other than that, I always stick with my routine.
 
In this video at about 18:30, Gareth Potts explains how to adjust your eight ball break to pocket the second-row balls in the side. I think you can also adjust the paths of the second-row balls by using follow/draw or adjust one side by very slightly changing the hit on the front ball.

 
Good on you for hearing that last weekend, that's the kind of thing that stays with you. I like that you keep both in the bag instead of marrying one of them. When it's going dry, which do you reach for first, the draw or the follow? I'm curious which one you trust more when the rack isn't cooperating.
Most of the time, draw. If I'm having issues, follow is first choice, then I'll aim at the 2nd ball if follow doesn't produce the resutlt I'm wanting.
 
Most of the time, draw. If I'm having issues, follow is first choice, then I'll aim at the 2nd ball if follow doesn't produce the resutlt I'm wanting.

draw is my usual too but i never thought to switch to follow first before moving the cue ball lol. do you aim at the 2nd ball from the same spot or do you move over for that. gonna try that order next time im at end pocket
 
haha same, i will play anyone at the bar too lol. do you get many takers on the open tables at your spot or is it mostly regulars
I play at small pool halls. I mostly shoot alone. There's group of guys at one that play every Sat. afternoon. A young man renting the table next to mine asked to play me, I agreed. After some time passed he asked about the group of guys playing as he wanted to challenge them. I said they're good, trying to dissuade him. Eventually he went over and asked them to play us. He cam back and said they're scared of me. Lol. They came and played a few games with us. We lost but had fun. We played APA rules. I think if we'd have played bar room rules, I could have taken them. My partner needed more experience.
 
I play at small pool halls. I mostly shoot alone. There's group of guys at one that play every Sat. afternoon. A young man renting the table next to mine asked to play me, I agreed. After some time passed he asked about the group of guys playing as he wanted to challenge them. I said they're good, trying to dissuade him. Eventually he went over and asked them to play us. He cam back and said they're scared of me. Lol. They came and played a few games with us. We lost but had fun. We played APA rules. I think if we'd have played bar room rules, I could have taken them. My partner needed more experience.


haha that is a great story, i love that the young guy just went over and challenged them anyway lol. do you still get out with that saturday group much or is it mostly you on your own at the small halls now
 
haha that is a great story, i love that the young guy just went over and challenged them anyway lol. do you still get out with that saturday group much or is it mostly you on your own at the small halls now
I've just started going Saturday's during the day time (which is when they play). I'll change work shirt to street clothes, then go shoot. I went once in uniform, it was confusing for introductions. The bar and grill owner works day shift, so I got to finally meet him. **Work shirt has my nickname from the Army, Popeye. My id and debit card have my legal name. I am a Jr. and grew up being called by a nickname for my middle name.** I will probably go again this Saturday afternoon and see if they want to play, once I get off work.
 
I've just started going Saturday's during the day time (which is when they play). I'll change work shirt to street clothes, then go shoot. I went once in uniform, it was confusing for introductions. The bar and grill owner works day shift, so I got to finally meet him. **Work shirt has my nickname from the Army, Popeye. My id and debit card have my legal name. I am a Jr. and grew up being called by a nickname for my middle name.** I will probably go again this Saturday afternoon and see if they want to play, once I get off work.
haha that uniform story is funny, i bet that was a confusing first hello for everyone lol. hope this saturday goes well for you, let me know if they want a game when you get there
 
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