tweeten triangle VS tiger everest

[JolietJames]

Like you my player is my break cue also. I've been playing with hard pressed Triangles forever. I like a controled break rather than a smash em up break.
One thing for sure, I never have to worry about a layer separating.
They last too.

How much harder does the pressed Triangle play?
I remember them (Triangle non-pressed) playing fairly hard to begin with but it's been a while.
I don't mind a hard tip on the big track but here in bar box hell Tennessee, the softer tips help me control whitey better.

 

[couldnthinkof01]

Any Tiger layered tip give a triangle the 5 out and the break in durability! Its not even close. You couldn't pay me to use a Triangle, LePro, or Elk Master ever again.

Here's mine after 3 years of 10-20 hours per week play. It feels the same as it did after the first month.
What do you mean by durability?

 

[Straightpool_99]

I must be a banger . I've bought a large number of shafts, and many come with an everest tip as the default. I never liked any of these tips. At best, the very best, it's like an inferior Moori M (which used to be my go-to). It would have no spring to it, just dead and dry. Comparing directly, side by side, you'd be shocked at the difference. Of course that was some years ago, I don't even know if you get Moori M's anymore and what their quality is like these days. There is one caveat, and that is that I never once purchased an Everest and put it on myself, so it could be that the professional installers did something to them or that they were old when I got them.

At worst the Everest suffers from every problem a layered tip can possibly get and for me they tended to be ruined rather quickly. They would glaze, delaminate, you name it. Keep in mind I would play every day, sometimes for hours and hours on tables with dead rails where you had to stroke the ball to get around. If I had to choose between an Everest and a Triangle, I think I'd take the Triangle, if I could try a couple of them (which should be possible due to them being so cheap, and that I put on my own tips).

The Tiger Sniper tip was IMO the best tip they made. It had some springiness to it and seemed to last longer. A little on the soft side perhaps, but not too bad. I'd take that over an Everest every day.

Personally I use soaked and pressed lePros only now. I think they're more predictable and I have IMO perfected the process of getting them exactly to the hardness and feel I like, which is a bit harder than an Everest. Of course, every once in a while a LePro turns out to be crap, even after being soaked and pressed, in which case you cut them off and put on a new one without shedding a single tear.

 

[couldnthinkof01]

Old one on left(3 ish years regularly played)
Basically new one on the right on backup shaft.

 

[iusedtoberich]

Here's mine after 3 years of 10-20 hours per week play. It feels the same as it did after the first month.
What do you mean by durability?

I did tip installs for a few years from about 2000 to 2009. The Triangles were my worst tip. They would explode like an accordion during install, or become so mushy they'd mushroom quickly. It might take a few different attempts to get them to install ok. The cue makers section was filled with techniques to try to find the "good" ones to avoid this happening. Same for Lepro's, but Triangles were worst from what I remember.

Layered tips stopped all of these issues.

If I ever set up shop again, I wouldn't even offer solid tips, save for maybe tweeten water buffalo. Those installed great and held up. You can buy good layered tips these days for about $4 in bulk.

 

[Lowell]

I did tip installs for a few years from about 2000 to 2009. The Triangles were my worst tip. They would explode like an accordion during install, or become so mushy they'd mushroom quickly. It might take a few different attempts to get them to install ok. The cue makers section was filled with techniques to try to find the "good" ones to avoid this happening. Same for Lepro's, but Triangles were worst from what I remember.

Layered tips stopped all of these issues.

If I ever set up shop again, I wouldn't even offer solid tips, save for maybe tweeten water buffalo. Those installed great and held up. You can buy good layered tips these days for about $4 in bulk.

I love the way the Ultra Skin Medium plays. Doesn't hold up shape as well as my Tiger Sniper, but I still think it's a great tip.

 

[philly]

How much harder does the pressed Triangle play?
I remember them (Triangle non-pressed) playing fairly hard to begin with but it's been a while.
I don't mind a hard tip on the big track but here in bar box hell Tennessee, the softer tips help me control whitey better.

Harder than without being pressed.
They get harder, more compressed with play.
I think harder tips allow you to play with a little more center ball and degrees of tip striking.
JMHO.

 

[couldnthinkof01]

I did tip installs for a few years from about 2000 to 2009. The Triangles were my worst tip. They would explode like an accordion during install, or become so mushy they'd mushroom quickly. It might take a few different attempts to get them to install ok. The cue makers section was filled with techniques to try to find the "good" ones to avoid this happening. Same for Lepro's, but Triangles were worst from what I remember.

Layered tips stopped all of these issues.

If I ever set up shop again, I wouldn't even offer solid tips, save for maybe tweeten water buffalo. Those installed great and held up. You can buy good layered tips these days for about $4 in bulk.

I've been using them for decades. 3 or 4 different "tip guys". Never had an issue.
Also never asked the guys installing them about their process.
If they don't have triangle for whatever reason I'll usually get a le pro or a water buffalo.
Never heard them complain about installing these tips but that doesn't mean much.
Sounds like you have a lot of experience.

For me...they play well, stay consistent for a very long time, and require little to no maintenance.

 

[philly]

I've been using them for decades. 3 or 4 different "tip guys". Never had an issue.
Also never asked the guys installing them about their process.
If they don't have triangle for whatever reason I'll usually get a le pro or a water buffalo.
Never heard them complain about installing these tips but that doesn't mean much.
Sounds like you have a lot of experience.

For me...they play well, stay consistent for a very long time, and require little to no maintenance.

Let's face it. Triangles are about a couple bucks apiece. There's not much money involved in installing a Triangle. The installer would rather you get a 50 buck tip. Their markup is greater.
With a Triangle, you paying for labor not the tip.

 

[bigtattoo79]

Again I’m pretty green when it comes to pool… Everyone told me breaking with my playing cue would destroy my tips so I decided to find a cheap tip and learn to install it myself, because as of now I’m gonna break and play with the same cue. Installed the Triangle and it’s holding up amazingly well and plays just fine for my skill level.

 

[couldnthinkof01]

Let's face it. Triangles are about a couple bucks apiece. There's not much money involved in installing a Triangle. The installer would rather you get a 50 buck tip. Their markup is greater.
With a Triangle, you paying for labor not the tip.

I believe that's probably true. I don't begrudge them for that.
I've watched a few of the installers do the tip while I wait. Looks like they just grab one, glue it on, spin and shape it. I've never seen one explode like an accordion or be soft and mushy after installing.
My experience in watching an install is very limited. Maybe those guys just knew how to pick a "good one".
Layered tips always seem to glaze and require messing with to stay in working order. I gave up on them.

 

[couldnthinkof01]

Again I’m pretty green when it comes to pool… Everyone told me breaking with my playing cue would destroy my tips so I decided to find a cheap tip and learn to install it myself, because as of now I’m gonna break and play with the same cue. Installed the Triangle and it’s holding up amazingly well and plays just fine for my skill level.

I break and play with the same cue on the small track. Use a break cue with a harder tip on 9ft (seems to get a little more speed out of the ball)
I think you'll be just fine.

 

[philly]

I believe that's probably true. I don't begrudge them for that.
I've watched a few of the installers do the tip while I wait. Looks like they just grab one, glue it on, spin and shape it. I've never seen one explode like an accordion or be soft and mushy after installing.
My experience in watching an install is very limited. Maybe those guys just knew how to pick a "good one".
Layered tips always seem to glaze and require messing with to stay in working order. I gave up on them.

I shape my Triangle tips on my player maybe once every 10 sessions. I just give a good old Willards tip tool a couple of pressured spins over the tip.
You can get a Willards at almost any pool site.

Source: FCI Billiards https://share.google/sa7q8fxuu7Ngitfx0

 

[Mensabum]

I must be a banger . I've bought a large number of shafts, and many come with an everest tip as the default. I never liked any of these tips. At best, the very best, it's like an inferior Moori M (which used to be my go-to). It would have no spring to it, just dead and dry. Comparing directly, side by side, you'd be shocked at the difference. Of course that was some years ago, I don't even know if you get Moori M's anymore and what their quality is like these days. There is one caveat, and that is that I never once purchased an Everest and put it on myself, so it could be that the professional installers did something to them or that they were old when I got them.

At worst the Everest suffers from every problem a layered tip can possibly get and for me they tended to be ruined rather quickly. They would glaze, delaminate, you name it. Keep in mind I would play every day, sometimes for hours and hours on tables with dead rails where you had to stroke the ball to get around. If I had to choose between an Everest and a Triangle, I think I'd take the Triangle, if I could try a couple of them (which should be possible due to them being so cheap, and that I put on my own tips).

The Tiger Sniper tip was IMO the best tip they made. It had some springiness to it and seemed to last longer. A little on the soft side perhaps, but not too bad. I'd take that over an Everest every day.

Personally I use soaked and pressed lePros only now. I think they're more predictable and I have IMO perfected the process of getting them exactly to the hardness and feel I like, which is a bit harder than an Everest. Of course, every once in a while a LePro turns out to be crap, even after being soaked and pressed, in which case you cut them off and put on a new one without shedding a single tear.

Sympatico!!!

 

[couldnthinkof01]

I shape my Triangle tips on my player maybe once every 10 sessions. I just give a good old Willards tip tool a couple of pressured spins over the tip.
You can get a Willards at almost any pool site.

Source: FCI Billiards https://share.google/sa7q8fxuu7Ngitfx0

I have one. It just collects dust in my case. Sometimes someone at the pool hall will ask to use it.
I almost never need to mess with the tip after the first month. Can't remember the last time I used it.

 

[philly]

I have one. It just collects dust in my case. Sometimes someone at the pool hall will ask to use it.
I almost never need to mess with the tip after the first month. Can't remember the last time I used it.

I use it basically just to rough the tip up.

 

[WildWing]

Apples and oranges between the Triangle and the Everest. Triangle is a coarse single layer tip, and the Everest is a typical layered tip. In my experience, it's easy to over spin with the layered tips, probably because glue is involved. Your mileage may vary.

 

[couldnthinkof01]

I use it basically just to rough the tip up.

Why do you rough it up?

My tip holds chalk as well today as it did when I first got it without doing anything to it besides chalking.
Haven't roughed it, used tip pik, or any tool or sandpaper on it.

 

[philly]

Why do you rough it up?

My tip holds chalk as well today as it did when I first got it without doing anything to it besides chalking.
Haven't roughed it, used tip pik, or any tool or sandpaper on it.

Good for you.

 

[couldnthinkof01]

Good for you.

It wasn't some weird brag. I was just confused on the need to mess with it?