Martin, i know you don't usually trade, but i have something you might really be interested in. I have the original schon chessman S-16 that my dad's friend bought directly from bob runde in 1982. He paid 1600 30 years ago and bob called back pist and said he should've gotten 2200.00 for it. As you know the s series was schon's first ever line of cues offered. The rings on mine are black, and the rings on the production model's are reddish brown. I'm interested in the blue veneered bender that you have had for sometime now and the turcoise and silver diamond bender with the ebony handle that looks close to the one i bought from you. I would be willing to trade my cue for the 2 of yours. let mr know, thanks, jeff I still owe you 20 bucks for the ship back i haven't forgot money is tight right now due to my dad losing a LEG DUE TO HIS DIABETES. Hope all is well with you and look forward to hearing from you soon