Advice On This Shot

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I seem to be running across this shot a lot lately. It's an extremely thin, almost backwards, shot into the side pocket. For arguments sake I put the 5B and 8B in the way so nobody could say to play it in the bottom right corner.

How do you make this shot? Extreme left english and try and thin it into the side pocket?

r/DCP
 
Back cuts aren't a problem. It's when players try dicking with the speed and other details; the equation collapses. Nuther thing about blind ones to a pocket, you got some slop room so you don't need a 91 degree hit.
Drill this genre of shots by shooting the caroms only. IOW forget pockets. Just shoot at balls with the carom as the objective.
carom = 90 degree OB reaction give or take throw effects.
 
I was at a big time action room in GA about 15 years ago (that closed shortly after). Every table had a game for 1k or more on it. Lots of pro or near pro level players in the house. One of the tables had a prop bet going on. Who could cut the ball the most. It was that long cut shot frozen on the end rail that every C player easily makes rail first with inside. Only the OB was about 1" off the rail, forcing a ball first hit. They were betting I think 1k per shot. I think it was scooter, and his crew, I forget now. Maybe Thorpe was there too shooting it.

Anyway, they were all shooting it with max outside spin.
 
The easy shot is the 1B to the top corner, a bit soft so CB is in position for the 5B next shot. Try not to hit 8B off the side rail.

PT109:: "Whitey behind the 5-ball….1-ball behind the 8-ball." that is the safety way out.
 
Back cuts aren't a problem. It's when players try dicking with the speed and other details; the equation collapses. Nuther thing about blind ones to a pocket, you got some slop room so you don't need a 91 degree hit.
Drill this genre of shots by shooting the caroms only. IOW forget pockets. Just shoot at balls with the carom as the objective.
carom = 90 degree OB reaction give or take throw effects.
In the context of DCP's question, this answer is apparently nonsensical.
 
And that's what DCP needs to get his 90-degree cut, but it's unlikely that he will. That's more left than 99.99% of pool players ever put on the cue ball. Really. Of course Dr. Dave has a video about it. See also the "silly shot" video or Take Five.

I'll check out Dr. Dave's video.

And I am going to practice this. I bet I can get to the point where I can make it at times. And something tells me Efren circa 1995 would have a hard time with this one.
 
I'll check out Dr. Dave's video.

And I am going to practice this. I bet I can get to the point where I can make it at times. And something tells me Efren circa 1995 would have a hard time with this one.
This shot will always b hard. I’ve seen Gorst miss a very similar shot playing 1 pocket. U may get to 30% if u practice it all the time. Although ur practice could be spent on better things imho. But hey go for it !!
 
In the context of DCP's question, this answer is apparently nonsensical.
How so? The shot seems to be cut it in the side. The rest is how you develop the ability. The extreme outside is just the fringe of cinching it. One could easily slam it and achieve an elevated and therefore thinner hit. One could outright jump it and hit the far side as well on and on...
Oh yeah, inside works too. Thins the actual hit if you have trouble hitting it.
 
Either play safe or cut the 5 to the left into the top right corner pocket. It is an “easier” cut and you don’t lose the cue ball. The side pocket shot is harder and you lose the cue ball completely.
 
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The OP asked how to make the cut in the side. He said he put the other balls on the table so people would not suggest some other shot.

To cut the ball into the side he has to play with extreme left and a little below center, pretty much as he guessed.
 

I seem to be running across this shot a lot lately. It's an extremely thin, almost backwards, shot into the side pocket. For arguments sake I put the 5B and 8B in the way so nobody could say to play it in the bottom right corner.

How do you make this shot? Extreme left english and try and thin it into the side pocket?

r/DCP
Ok, let me upset the apple cart here. I shoot that shot at 80 percent, not only into the side, but corner pockets as well. I know you don't believe me (everyone in this thread) so let's make it a challenge shot. I'll go with anyone who has some gamble for how ever much they want on every shot, you will win some of the shots, but I will have all your money in short order. I'm not bragging because it's true and has been tested many times .. lol .. Now here is the best part, guaranteed to drive all the instructors right out of their minds - Use extreme Inside spin and a very firm stroke - That's the trick, of course you have to have a laser straight stroke and a sharp eye, cut the ball as thin as you possibly can and see what happens.
 
. I shoot that shot at 80 percent,
Unlikely, but anything is possible. Let's make the shot more specific.
Cue ball on the head spot, object ball one ball to the right of the center spot (exact center of the table), cut the ob to the right into the side pocket. 9-foot table.
Can you make that 80% with right side spin?
The shot will be exactly a 90-degree cut if the OB goes into the center of the side pocket.
 
Unlikely, but anything is possible. Let's make the shot more specific.
Cue ball on the head spot, object ball one ball to the right of the center spot (exact center of the table), cut the ob to the right into the side pocket. 9-foot table.
Can you make that 80% with right side spin?
The shot will be exactly a 90-degree cut if the OB goes into the center of the side pocket.
I once seen a guy hit a true 90 degree shot from the left corner pocket to the right corner pocket with the object ball on the spot...
If only that guy were here to give us sage advice.... :)
 
Unlikely, but anything is possible. Let's make the shot more specific.
Cue ball on the head spot, object ball one ball to the right of the center spot (exact center of the table), cut the ob to the right into the side pocket. 9-foot table.
Can you make that 80% with right side spin?
The shot will be exactly a 90-degree cut if the OB goes into the center of the side pocket.
He can’t make that 5% of the time.
 
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