New Olhausen tournament model..................

[garczar]

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[iusedtoberich]

I Googled it and Yahoo'd it. I don't see any specific pics. Lots of pics of the Champion Pro table. Can you provide a link?

And it's funny. When I took up this hobby in late 1998 I had just watched the Challenge of Champions from Uncasville, CT. It was Oliver Ortmann and Kung Fang Lee. They were playing on an Olhausen Champion Pro table. At that time it sort of became my dream table.

I went to Indianapolis to the Olhausen dealer to inquire about one. Their sales guy didn't even know who Oliver Ortmann was. So I left there and went over to the Brunswick dealer. Eventually bought the Gold Crown IV.

r/DCP

Did the Brunswick dealer know who Oliver was?

 

[muskyed]

Good looking table, but I have a feeling that it’s going to be priced even higher than the grand champ.

I just got done spending some time with someone who was at the tmt with some friends playing in it. They said table pocketed balls very easily, compared to Diamonds and the view of some players there, the table played somewhat slow. The tables did appear to play true in the youtubes. They also said cost was reported to be apx 2K more than a Diamond, but wasn't sure if that was a Pro Am or Professional for comparison.
I have to admit in the youtubes the table looked nice except for the shiny corners.

 

[iusedtoberich]

I just got done spending some time with someone who was at the tmt with some friends playing in it. They said table pocketed balls very easily, compared to Diamonds and the view of some players there, the table played somewhat slow. The tables did appear to play true in the youtubes. They also said cost was reported to be apx 2K more than a Diamond, but wasn't sure if that was a Pro Am or Professional for comparison.
I have to admit in the youtubes the table looked nice except for the shiny corners.

Sounds perfect!!!!! Diamonds pocket balls too tough, and bounce off the rails like super balls.

 

[JS858]

I just got done spending some time with someone who was at the tmt with some friends playing in it. They said table pocketed balls very easily, compared to Diamonds and the view of some players there, the table played somewhat slow. The tables did appear to play true in the youtubes. They also said cost was reported to be apx 2K more than a Diamond, but wasn't sure if that was a Pro Am or Professional for comparison.
I have to admit in the youtubes the table looked nice except for the shiny corners.

Yeah “let’s make a competing product, but not make the cost anywhere near competitive” sounds about right for them.

 

[muskyed]

Yeah “let’s make a competing product, but not make the cost anywhere near competitive” sounds about right for them.

This is just what I heard from someone who was there, who knows if what they were told was the right info but they are not someone to make things up, time will tell on the table. Would be interesting to see their framework and leveling system.

 

[iusedtoberich]

Actually if the gal said the pockets were too easy, that must mean the Olhaousen Rattle is completely gone. I think that was the main complaint for decades, holding them back from being a player's table.

 

[Bavafongoul]

I watched the matches today and the tables look great because of the rails. Saw some really good 8 ball matches
and women players with Fargo ratings of high 600 to low 700’s play shots and miss just like I would. Amazing how
getting out of shape by just an inch completely changes the runout map that had been working for 6-7 prior shots.
The photos are from today I took off my TV screen. I paused the TV so I could try to capture what the table looks like.
Corner pocket size is 4.5” and the rails looked totally flat and level which is so much nicer than Diamond pool tables.

 

[muskyed]

Sounds perfect!!!!! Diamonds pocket balls too tough, and bounce off the rails like super balls.

Ha ha, I guess I didn't see that interpretation in what I wrote. Just goes to show that the same words mean different things to different people.
Also didn't say too easy, but just seemed easier.

 

[garczar]

If they think anyone gonna blow 2dimes more on one of these over a D'mond they're smokin crack.

 

[iusedtoberich]

If they think anyone gonna blow 2dimes more on one of these over a D'mond they're smokin crack.

When a new table costs 10k all in with delivery and installation, a 20% difference isn’t that big a deal.

There is plenty of room for multiple companies to have a table out there. Especially if they are good quality.

Edit: plus no one knows factually what the price is anyway.

 

[bradsh98]

When a new table costs 10k all in with delivery and installation, a 20% difference isn’t that big a deal.

There is plenty of room for multiple companies to have a table out there. Especially if they are good quality.

Edit: plus no one knows factually what the price is anyway.

The Grand Champion (predecessor to the Tournament Pro) is $9814. I would guess that the Tournament Pro would have to be a fair bit more, considering the 1-pc slate, and the new pocket design.

 

[bradsh98]

the table played somewhat slow.

I wondered if this might be the case... I'm hoping to learn a LOT more about these tables, in the coming weeks. Interestingly enough, the Sales Sheet, on the Olhausen website states that the tables use "tournament standard" 1 7/16" nose height. I'm not aware of any manufacturer that uses specifically 1 7/16" nose height, so I'm curious where this 1 7/16" "tournament standard" comes from.

That said, Olhausen has typically used 1 1/2" thick rails, for most of their tables. With that, the correct nose height for a K66 Accu-Fast cushion would be 1 3/8". The only way that they could get away with using 1 7/16" nose height, without slowing the rebound, would be to increase the thickness of the rails. I'm curious what dimensions they used, for rail/sub-rail thickness.

Not that any of it matters... It looks like a nice table. And, it looks like Olhausen is trying to reenter the tournament fold. Good for them!

 

[AtLarge]

I wondered if this might be the case... I'm hoping to learn a LOT more about these tables, in the coming weeks. Interestingly enough, the Sales Sheet, on the Olhausen website states that the tables use "tournament standard" 1 7/16" nose height. I'm not aware of any manufacturer that uses specifically 1 7/16" nose height, so I'm curious where this 1 7/16" "tournament standard" comes from.

That said, Olhausen has typically used 1 1/2" thick rails, for most of their tables. With that, the correct nose height for a K66 Accu-Fast cushion would be 1 3/8". The only way that they could get away with using 1 7/16" nose height, without slowing the rebound, would be to increase the thickness of the rails. I'm curious what dimensions they used, for rail/sub-rail thickness.

Not that any of it matters... It looks like a nice table. And, it looks like Olhausen is trying to reenter the tournament fold. Good for them!

Maybe they have changed to get within the WPA equipment specs, where nose height is supposed to be 62½% to 64½% of the ball diameter. 1 7/16" is in that range whereas 1 3/8" is not.

 

[muskyed]

I have to say I like the flush top/pockets and no metal edge on the outer perimeter. As to the actual price and construction, more will come out soon I'm sure. I think it's a good thing to see Olhausen step up their game in quality of a table, and also sponsor pool at this level. There is a cost to that though, in that the consumer will indirectly be paying for that.
Edit, as to cost, a lot of people are not players and buy pool tables as home decor.

 

[boogieman]

I hope they take what they learn from these tables and fix the geometry on their home lines. It's quite a task, but once you fix the pocket geometry, Olhausen are a pleasure to play on.

 

[mnorwood]

The olhausen rattle is no worse than jawing a ball on a diamond. Get your game up and hit the ball perfect.

 

[JS858]

When a new table costs 10k all in with delivery and installation, a 20% difference isn’t that big a deal.

There is plenty of room for multiple companies to have a table out there. Especially if they are good quality.

Edit: plus no one knows factually what the price is anyway.

You’re not looking at it right.
Paying substantially more than the price of a diamond for a table that isn’t going hold diamond resale value either is more like a 50% swing and definitely a big deal.

Don’t forget, you’re not rich anymore.

 

[TrxR]

The olhausen rattle is no worse than jawing a ball on a diamond. Get your game up and hit the ball perfect.

I don't really agree with that . The geometry of the olhausen pockets are known to be wrong, (Olhausen has even admitted to it )and will rattle cleanly hit balls. A clean hit ball on a Diamond will fall.

Even the biggest Diamond hater on here doesn't agree with your opinion.

But you have your right to your opinion .

 

[iusedtoberich]

You’re not looking at it right.
Paying substantially more than the price of a diamond for a table that isn’t going hold diamond resale value either is more like a 50% swing and definitely a big deal.

Don’t forget, you’re not rich anymore.

What if I hate the way a Diamond plays? Tons of players like me looking for something better. And won’t care if it’s 10k or 12k installed.