Standard Simonis Green Question

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DrCue'sProtege

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I have a small piece of standard Simonis Green 860. It's very dark. I've used it to practice jumping before but really haven't used it for years.

So today I pulled out from under my Gold Crown IV a little storage thing that I keep some stuff in. I hadn't looked at it in probably 3-4 years, or more. In the bottom was some pieces of standard Simonis Green 860 that I had installed years ago.

And the two pieces were completely different as far as the shade of green. I couldn't believe it. Can someone explain to me how one piece of standard Simonis Green could be such a different shade of other standard Simonis Green?

r/DCP
 
Lot Variation… Just like paint or fabric in clothing, every production run (dye lot) can have slight color differences. I’m sure they aim for consistency but some things are out of their control.
 
Well, the darker standard Simonis 860 would not be what I wanted.

But the slightly lighter version of standard Simonis 860 would be okay.

How is one supposed to know what he is getting???
 
Are you sure the darker piece is “simonis green” I’ve seen table mechanics order the wrong stuff. Maybe it was the it blue-green cloth? It’s is a slightly darker green.
 
Aside from the possibility of lot variation, which is likely not the reason IMO, Simonis offers a variety of green colors.
Sometimes the shipper might pull the wrong color from inventory or maybe the buyer ordered a different color green.
The color options are illustrated in the below photo; FYI, I still prefer Simonis green over their tournament blue color.

p.s. Simonis even suggests requesting a sample of the cloth you want before ordering.
 

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This is the best I could do. Not sure how noticeable it will be but the Simonis Green on the right in Pic #1 and on top in Pic #2 is not as dark as the other Simonis Green.
 

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You started several threads on Simonis (forest, standard, etc.) over the years. Search your posts on cloth.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
This is the best I could do. Not sure how noticeable it will be but the Simonis Green on the right in Pic #1 and on top in Pic #2 is not as dark as the other Simonis Green.
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It isn’t smart to lay different colors across and on top of each other because your eyesight tends to blend the colors.
Actually, it’s not your vision but rather how it gets displayed in your mind and memory bank. A much better way is to lay the samples adjacent to each other but separated not touching. This way you can closely look at the sample photos isolated and individually but still able to compare viewing all the horizontally arranged samples. But you need better lighting, white not tinted, so the colors stand out better. Another thing is the clarity is poor which complicates judging the cloths.
 
Wait, are you simply talking about fading cloth from what is installed on a table compared to what was hidden in a dark drawer somewhere for years?
 
Bavafongoul said:
It isn’t smart to lay different colors across and on top of each other because your eyesight tends to blend the colors.
Actually, it’s not your vision but rather how it gets displayed in your mind and memory bank. A much better way is to lay the samples adjacent to each other but separated not touching. This way you can closely look at the sample photos isolated and individually but still able to compare viewing all the horizontally arranged samples. But you need better lighting, white not tinted, so the colors stand out better. Another thing is the clarity is poor which complicates judging the cloths.
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All excellent points for comparing color. I'd also like to add that you should put them on either a white or black background. If you can't do that, at least take them outside during the middle of the day and put them on a semi neutral colored background. The light reflecting off of the green cloth you have them lying on is definitely affecting how they look. And I'm not saying they aren't different because they are. It's just affecting how they look because you have a lot of green light added into the mix so they might not look as different under nice natural light.

Having said all that, controlling color can be difficult because there are so many variable that affect it. Plus, everyone's eyes are different. Also, the Simonis factory was hit by a flood a few years back. I don't know exactly how old your two samples are, but if one is much newer than the other it's possible their color standards have changed compared to what they were pre-flood.
 
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