Custom and High End Cues on the Decline?

Tascarella is another cue that just hangs at its "sold from the maker value" beautiful cues but will never appreciate in value. Very few cues actually gain value and a lot of that has to do with the cue being "sold" 10 years+ prior to when it was built. Who has a 10+ year wait? Searing, Showman, Southwest anybody else?
 
To be honest, most people have overvalued the "scruggs died" money bump. The only ones to benefit from this are bushka and a lesser extent Szamboti. I cant imagine paying more for a scruggs pre vs post. Now don't get me wrong, Scruggs probably played better than both
...but
I beg to differ a bit. After a cue maker retires from building cues, or this world, their cues often appreciate.

For one thing, the population of cues made will never increase in number and can go only go down due to
damage or actually becoming lost. The value of a cue is always based on rarity and scarcity. The simple
version is supply and demand but actually rarity and scarcity is what really fine tunes the market price.

A living cue maker still active can make more of the same cue designs, obviously would increase the total
number of cues built so the rarity factor can come into play long before scarcity factor does. I think any well
regarded name in cue making that passes on would likely see the market value of cues appreciate. I paid $2500
for my Scruggs cue 20 years ago and I was the 2nd owner but the darn cue truly was pristine condition.

It is worth quite a bit more today. IMO, I attribute a lot of that to Tim not building cues any longer and he didn’t
make that many radial pin flat ivory joints (rarity factor). How many could you locate right now, today, that’s for sale
or within the last 6 months, 1 year or even 2-3 years (scarcity factor)?

The below outlines key factors that relate to a permanently retired cue maker’s pool cues appreciating afterward.
It directly reflects how they were faring while they were still building custom cues, not just catalog pool cue versions.



First and foremost, a deceased cue maker must have been a highly regarded name while he was building cues.

It just dawned in me how sexiest that sentence must come across to women readers. As if a women wasn’t as
qualified and capable as a man when it comes to cue making. Personally, I enjoy watching women professionals
play pool as much as I do men players. Jean Balukis could beat anyone on any day, even Willie admitted that. So
how come I can’t recall any famous, or just popular, names in cue making that are women. That just seems odd.

Secondly, the cue maker can’t be a large production shop where lots of the work is performed by subordinates and only
last minute cursory attention to detail gets performed by the cue maker. In other words, the cue maker has to be hands on involved with the build.

Thirdly, annual production and lifetime production of cues, especially the higher level, more intricate designs (Level 7 and above) has to be a modest number. The market shouldn’t have lots of replicated designs barely distinguishable from each other. The cue maker has to bring something to the build; craftsmanship and detailed execution has to be their hallmark.

Fourthly, the cue maker needs to be highly regarded by players, as well as his peers, for building a pool cue that is difficult not to praise the first time you play with it. The cue maker’s wares should become acclaimed about something.

Lastly, the cue maker must have been popular, and in great demand, while he was still making cues. He (or she) should have had a wait list for a custom cue order and I’m not going to suppose what it should be but you’d need to wait awhile before your cue was even started.
 
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i have not read most of the replies
but i too think the number of people who appreciate a fine custom cue is among the older generation who's days are numbered
the younger generation see the current pro's using production cues for the most part
only natural for them to want to emulate that
i sold off my collection several years ago and have no regrets
 
new off the shelf factory stuff just plays better
custom cue makers cannot offer much by way of performance

additionally all the horror stories of the old cue makers poor service, wait times, overpricing, etc....

who needs that
 
What a great guy Mike is, if he had tightened up his tolerances he would have been up there with the best. Oddly enough, his tolerances were on par with most Richard Black's, he just didnt have the name recognition.
The one's i've seen have all been awesome. I don't take magnifying glasses to cues so there may be some tiny flaws. They hit as good as any cue made. The one i have is from a batch of around 6-7 cues that he made for Wade Crane to take on the road to sell. I called Mike when i got it and when told how i got it he asked to buy it back. Said that run of cues was some of if not his best stuff. Wade and his stakepony got a lil stuck playing here in TulsaBilliardPalace and a couple friends bought two cues at good prices. I was given my 'bushka style by one of those guys. https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/my-jensen.531063/#post-6964494
 
i have not read most of the replies
but i too think the number of people who appreciate a fine custom cue is among the older generation who's days are numbered
the younger generation see the current pro's using production cues for the most part
only natural for them to want to emulate that
i sold off my collection several years ago and have no regrets
Agree 100%. The current gen. of players barely notice custom cues, the next generation will know only production stuff.
 
I've only seen 3 of Mike Gulyassy built cues and own two of them Earl Strickland had the third , I feel I can't get a cue that will hit a ball any better .
I still appreciate custom cues and will check the for sale page on a regular basis just to see what is being offered because it's a big wide world out there and my part of it is very small , my thirst for knowledge is way out there and as I've said before I love the game of pool !

In some ways I feel sad for them not wanting more from a cue that the next person who walks in to play pool has the same cue they're playing with ha ha yes this maybe a bit far fetched but the chances are growing at a fast rate .
 
I've only seen 3 of Mike Gulyassy built cues and own two of them Earl Strickland had the third , I feel I can't get a cue that will hit a ball any better .
I still appreciate custom cues and will check the for sale page on a regular basis just to see what is being offered because it's a big wide world out there and my part of it is very small , my thirst for knowledge is way out there and as I've said before I love the game of pool !

In some ways I feel sad for them not wanting more from a cue that the next person who walks in to play pool has the same cue they're playing with ha ha yes this maybe a bit far fetched but the chances are growing at a fast rate .
Keep your eyes open.

You may see a 4th.

I may put my 60" white ebony on up for sale at some point.

I need to start downsizing a bit...I have more than a dozen that are becoming closet queens.
 
I appreciate the thought honesty I do but I've had new medical issues rear their ugly head that I'm getting to deal with so I also am thinning down some of my cues and other items , but not my cues that mike made !
 
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