Predicting and Controlling Cue Ball Direction off a Rail with Follow Shots

Yes, I just set up this shot. All my CB did was go straight over to the rail. No bending or curving like I expected.

When I hit the CB high about as hard as I am physically capable of hitting it there was a very slight bend. Probably about 1/4 of what I am seeing on this video.

It just convinces me even more that this GCIV has some kind of issue that prevents it from playing like it should.

Try to wax the CB to see if that makes a difference. As I mentioned, the cloth in my cushions is very new, so that could have something to do with it (but I doubt it). Also, if you post a video of the shot (maybe with unwaxed and waxed CBs), that might shed some light on things.
 
Yes, I just set up this shot. All my CB did was go straight over to the rail. No bending or curving like I expected.

When I hit the CB high about as hard as I am physically capable of hitting it there was a very slight bend. Probably about 1/4 of what I am seeing on this video.

It just convinces me even more that this GCIV has some kind of issue that prevents it from playing like it should.
Because it couldn't be the stroke? 😁
 
….I'd sure expect to see some signs of aging in five years.
It may have something to do with my playing 14.1 exclusively. The corner shots are starting to bobble, but the rails don’t get much wear.

Polished balls seem to spread the pack better, and cut at the correct angle without using any outside.

I assumed banks were supposed to follow a geometric angle, and not go progressively over-long as the angle widens (?). On the 9’ tables where I learned. a ball in the pocket throat hit centerball at the 2nd diamond across/downtable, always went 3 rails into the opposite corner, though ball & cloth conditions WERE quite different back then. That shot can never go here, even hitting just short of the side pocket, and regardless of any english used.
 
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It may have something to do with my playing 14.1 exclusively. The corner shots are starting to bobble, but the rails don’t get much wear.

Polished balls seem to spread the pack better, and cut at the correct angle without using any outside.

I assumed banks were supposed to follow a geometric angle, and not go progressively over-long as the angle widens (?). On the 9’ tables where I learned. a ball in the pocket throat hit centerball at the 2nd diamond across/downtable, alway went 3 rails into the opposite corner, though ball & cloth conditions WERE quite different back then. That shot can never go here, even hitting just short of the side pocket, and regardless of any english used.
The ball bends every time it hits and leaves a cushion. The ball rolls into the cushion, cushion bounces it away, ball wants to keep rolling in the initial direction.
Mathematically you get incidence = reflection. Poolthetically, you get pretty lines caused by friction and inertia.
 
Yes, I just set up this shot. All my CB did was go straight over to the rail. No bending or curving like I expected.

When I hit the CB high about as hard as I am physically capable of hitting it there was a very slight bend. Probably about 1/4 of what I am seeing on this video.

It just convinces me even more that this GCIV has some kind of issue that prevents it from playing like it should.

Take some video of you hitting the shot - I'd guess Dr. Dave could analyze whether you are actually hitting it high and with a proper stroke/angle of your cue.
 
Take some video of you hitting the shot - I'd guess Dr. Dave could analyze whether you are actually hitting it high and with a proper stroke/angle of your cue.
Kinda off topic but the where they actually hit the ball is indeed the answer. I often noticed beginners that couldn't draw their rock. Their draw attempts would be amusing to watch as they reset the shot and hit it harder each time. Not realizing that in the attempt to add power their shoulder would drop, causing the tip to hit higher on the cueball than their aim intended.
Of course this leads to My sales pitch for beginners, "look at the cueball as you whack it." Sorry Dr 😉 sometimes I just can't behave. 🤷‍♂️
 
Kinda off topic but the where they actually hit the ball is indeed the answer. I often noticed beginners that couldn't draw their rock. Their draw attempts would be amusing to watch as they reset the shot and hit it harder each time. Not realizing that in the attempt to add power their shoulder would drop, causing the tip to hit higher on the cueball than their aim intended.
Of course this leads to My sales pitch for beginners, "look at the cueball as you whack it." Sorry Dr 😉 sometimes I just can't behave. 🤷‍♂️

I would instead encourage them to try to improve their stroke mechanics and draw shot technique. I certainly wouldn’t want them to lose the benefits that OB-last focus provides. 🤓
 
I would instead encourage them to try to improve their stroke mechanics and draw shot technique. I certainly wouldn’t want them to lose the benefits that OB-last focus provides. 🤓
Oh gosh I had forgotten your your video justifying object ball last. The foundation comes first.(Well IMHO 😉) THEN the mechanical. Until those are perfected the aim is of little consequence.
Oh and by the by.... the Snooker coverage is offering some high definition looks at all aspects of the competitors methods. The list of top players that look at whitey last is growing. Stephen Hendry says that Ronnie O'Sullivan does the same as he does. Cueball last of course. It is not universal.....yet. 😉 Shot making is the strength of object ball last. Cueball control is the strength of whitey at impact.
An incredible hard shot might impress but simple shots over and over puts money in the pocket.
 
Mark Williams is a favorite snooker player. He often shoots with his eyes closed for exhibition shots. I recommend eyes closed as a practice to sort out gremlins in the mechanics.
Oh and When Mark ain't showing off his eyebrows indicate where he's looking.
 
Okay one last comment before I get into trouble. 😉 (again 😉). Your baseball analogy is flawed in mentioning the pitcher instead of the Hitter. Would you recommend that the hitter look at the fence if they seek to hit a home run? That's rhetorical 🤷‍♂️
The majority of the population will give a different answer than the majority of World record holders (or GOATs).
So checking credentials of those offering coaching is recommended.
Willie Hoppe, Stephen Hendry and Jason Shaw make a GOAT threesome that covers the 3 most common Cue Sports. All three speak clearly their method.
Comparison of pool to snooker.....well the money talks. 🤷‍♂️
So seriously Dr Dave ...oh well the current situation in United States politics is probably the best example of intelligent people trying to defend the indefensible.
 
beaten dead horse
Sorry to hear about your horse.
Mine is a Hobby horse, of course. He doesn't jump so well but I can lead with either hand.
You know Ronnie says he can shoot a 147 with the other hand. He hasn't done it in competition but his creditability is good with me. Have you seen Efren shooting with the other hand? I have and it's identical. Not many people can do that.....switch hands that is......Well being All American and all, I realize that The Majority Rules. So I endeavor to follow the rules. I do by religious principle try to change them if and when I can. So if logic is against the rules......you can rule the fool. Hopefully I, uh Please Lord
 
Perhaps an offer of the Peace Pipe.
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I better not, oh well Peace on Doctor 😷
 
Do you use any sort of wax to polish them?
Typically, I just use the spray cleaner sold by the polish machine retailer. Rarely, when balls pickup black marks, I’ll use a popular ball cleaning cream, but some residue from that remains in the machine felt and seems to have a lasting effect. Polishing these days is seldom anyway since my adoption of green V10.
 
Does that cleaner contain wax or silicone?
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My daily fitness program froof er uh proof the advantages of my custom carpeting of the ball return system. With a ball wipe as it enters the holding cell.
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20260112_075704.jpgNo need for polish yet it's been at least a year. I do however buff them as they come out of holding and into play. The Levi pockets fit the cueball nicely to rotate it on the hemm.....while the jerk wad was grandstanding......while racking.......again. 🤷‍♂️
Good habits are worth forming. The New layered tips could leave a fly speck of glue on the ball. A habit developed playing barbox in the pizza parlor. Oh wow could be speed bumps anywhere. Wink.
 
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