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I'm looking for any input from forum members that have historical knowledge on Adam Cues, that could help with figuring out who and why some of these modifications were made. The modifications could just be a custom order, but the changes are so specific and well done.
The owner was from Ohio and had passed away and i bought this from his brother-in-law. The brother-in-law said they were going to throw the cues away but he thought it might be something to save.
IF this post needs to be moved to the cue makers forum, I would agree. But the main forum gets more views.
A little back story. I purchased a Adam a/h-37 off of a listing site. It showed up today and i was taking the time to validate the cue was in fact a a/h-37. And then i started noticing differences between a standard Adam Galaxy and the one I received. I will go thru my findings and things that I noticed between this cue and a standard Galaxy that I noticed.
Specs:
1. length: 57" - butt 28-5/8" , shaft 28-1/8"
2. weight: butt 15.6 oz. , shaft 3.7 oz.
3. tip: 12.6 mm
Modifications that I noticed. Pics included
I will start at the butt and work my way up.
1. I don't believe that the weight bolt is the standard weight bolt that came with the Adam A/H series.
2. There should be a white ring at the top of the butt before the wrap starts, the white ring is missing.
3. Wrap and wrap grove. I believe that the a/h series cues came with a leather wrap. This one has a white/brown wrap. Wrap groove length is short only 11" inches long, and starts where the white ring should have been.
4. Joint rings and collar have been changed. From pictures an original Galaxy should have had a railroad ring and a white ring along with a stainless steel collar. This cue had a black ring along with rosewood. The joint collar has been replaced with a collar that looks like a brass wrapped stainless steel collar and its short. The stainless steel pin that I believe the original model had, has been replaced with what i believe is a brass 5/16-18 pin.
5. The shaft has also been worked. The shaft should have been piloted and the rings should have been a railroad ring along with a white ring. This shaft has a rosewood and a brass wrapped stainless steel ring. This ring makes up the difference in the joint collar being short. The shaft is now flat faced.
That is a crapload of custom work.
My thoughts:
It looks as if this a custom order, I don't have any idea if the cue was customized at the Adam Shop in Japan or somewhere else. I came across a Forum thread that mentioned that Burton Spain was authorized to sell Adam Cues and made modifications to these Adam cues. I doubt that this is one of them but man that's a ton of work.
Previous Thread that mentions Burton Spain selling and making mods to the cues.
After the cues arrived I called and asked him, if the original owner had spent anytime in Chicago where Spain worked, he said he didn't think so. But the guy liked to play pool and had some money and may have bought this from someone in the pool hall he used to frequent
So please take a look and let me know what you think. Maybe someone on here has a similar modified Adam cue and could provide their thoughts.
And thank you for taking your time to look and respond, your comments is passing knowledge on to a younger generation and helps us identify and save these cues from ending up in the Trash bin.
The owner was from Ohio and had passed away and i bought this from his brother-in-law. The brother-in-law said they were going to throw the cues away but he thought it might be something to save.
IF this post needs to be moved to the cue makers forum, I would agree. But the main forum gets more views.
A little back story. I purchased a Adam a/h-37 off of a listing site. It showed up today and i was taking the time to validate the cue was in fact a a/h-37. And then i started noticing differences between a standard Adam Galaxy and the one I received. I will go thru my findings and things that I noticed between this cue and a standard Galaxy that I noticed.
Specs:
1. length: 57" - butt 28-5/8" , shaft 28-1/8"
2. weight: butt 15.6 oz. , shaft 3.7 oz.
3. tip: 12.6 mm
Modifications that I noticed. Pics included
I will start at the butt and work my way up.
1. I don't believe that the weight bolt is the standard weight bolt that came with the Adam A/H series.
2. There should be a white ring at the top of the butt before the wrap starts, the white ring is missing.
3. Wrap and wrap grove. I believe that the a/h series cues came with a leather wrap. This one has a white/brown wrap. Wrap groove length is short only 11" inches long, and starts where the white ring should have been.
4. Joint rings and collar have been changed. From pictures an original Galaxy should have had a railroad ring and a white ring along with a stainless steel collar. This cue had a black ring along with rosewood. The joint collar has been replaced with a collar that looks like a brass wrapped stainless steel collar and its short. The stainless steel pin that I believe the original model had, has been replaced with what i believe is a brass 5/16-18 pin.
5. The shaft has also been worked. The shaft should have been piloted and the rings should have been a railroad ring along with a white ring. This shaft has a rosewood and a brass wrapped stainless steel ring. This ring makes up the difference in the joint collar being short. The shaft is now flat faced.
That is a crapload of custom work.
My thoughts:
It looks as if this a custom order, I don't have any idea if the cue was customized at the Adam Shop in Japan or somewhere else. I came across a Forum thread that mentioned that Burton Spain was authorized to sell Adam Cues and made modifications to these Adam cues. I doubt that this is one of them but man that's a ton of work.
Previous Thread that mentions Burton Spain selling and making mods to the cues.
Greetings --Original Adams/Galaxie from the 70s close to Mint condition... purchased at Time Sq. Billiards early to Mid 70S has been in storage for 35years or so ---recently started to play again but cant bring myself to using the cue (dont ask me why) --
maybe it was the first cue that i owned, you know like the first car ---Lots of memories.
anyway i had a second shaft made at the Adams cue co.
To some people who dont know or get it its just a pool cue whats the difference. --- Well back in the day a cue was part of you we did not have all the web sites all the choices. man when i...
maybe it was the first cue that i owned, you know like the first car ---Lots of memories.
anyway i had a second shaft made at the Adams cue co.
To some people who dont know or get it its just a pool cue whats the difference. --- Well back in the day a cue was part of you we did not have all the web sites all the choices. man when i...
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After the cues arrived I called and asked him, if the original owner had spent anytime in Chicago where Spain worked, he said he didn't think so. But the guy liked to play pool and had some money and may have bought this from someone in the pool hall he used to frequent
So please take a look and let me know what you think. Maybe someone on here has a similar modified Adam cue and could provide their thoughts.
And thank you for taking your time to look and respond, your comments is passing knowledge on to a younger generation and helps us identify and save these cues from ending up in the Trash bin.