Cues for Sale... Without Extensions
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CajunPopeye
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Yeah, the extension has to be light, CF works well
There are tons of cheap decent cues out there that come with extension.
Some of older reputable cue makers that for some reason don't offer them or offer them to only one line of cues. They could make an easy $100-$200 extra just by offering them and all it takes is a change to the bumper and weight bolt system.
Agree completely and it's one of the reason I've moved away from the more classic style custom cues I liked in the past.
I eventually ended up landing on a Jacoby as a good solid and locally made cue that has both extension and carbon shaft options. These days I wouldn't even consider a cue that doesn't have an extension option.
And I don't use them often at all, I'm definitely not a leave one on all the time type (I did try it, wasn't for me). I still like the mechanical bridge for many simple shots but there are just certain shots where I need to move the cue ball a lot that I feel much more comfortable shooting with an extension. Had one last week in league, probably first time I got the extension out in a few weeks but it was key to a tricky positional shot that required navigating a bunch of traffic and I nailed it and won the rack because of that shot.
I eventually ended up landing on a Jacoby as a good solid and locally made cue that has both extension and carbon shaft options. These days I wouldn't even consider a cue that doesn't have an extension option.
And I don't use them often at all, I'm definitely not a leave one on all the time type (I did try it, wasn't for me). I still like the mechanical bridge for many simple shots but there are just certain shots where I need to move the cue ball a lot that I feel much more comfortable shooting with an extension. Had one last week in league, probably first time I got the extension out in a few weeks but it was key to a tricky positional shot that required navigating a bunch of traffic and I nailed it and won the rack because of that shot.
Well, I don't usually follow this stuff, but I have noticed some things at the pool hall. The other kids have gizmos and whiz banger attachments.
I see butt extensions, joint extensions, and joint weights. So I looked on the web and sure enough, they are all for sale "mainstream".
What surprised me was that the OP said " it's almost impossible to play without one". I found that statement striking. What changed?
I don't keep up with the organized sport anymore, when I watch videos they are from the last century. So I looked at what is going on. I saw one article where a promoter uses fake smoke machines so the tournament looks smoky on camera, to create the expected atmosphere.
They have shirts available that look like they came off a pro bicycle rider. Some kind of "high performance" spandex-like material. I went and looked at Jayson Shaw's high run and he was wearing one. He beat Mosconi, and Schmidt, by a lot. Jason had the shirt, but didn't use an extension. Was it the shirt? Of course, Mosconi's run still stands as an actual competition run.
While Shaw famously popularized playing with a permanent 7-to-10-inch rear extension for years to gain added stability, weight, and reach, he actually removed it before his major straight pool milestones. Was this a stunt? A daredevil maneuver? Like- "Don't try this at home kids."
So, further investigation reveals there is special underwear for pool now as well. And shoes.
Mosconi set his record in actual competition with a Rambo cue. No extension. No spandex. I have no idea what kind of underwear he was wearing. He was wearing black leather dress shoes.
So, these are coming back? Well, except this is made of wood.
On a side note, a few years ago a dude came up to me at the pool hall. He said another dude said to ask me because I knew a lot about cues. He said he wanted to buy a mid extension for his cue but he didn't know how to make sure it matched the taper of his cue. Not kidding.
I have no extension. I might be a daredevil.
I see butt extensions, joint extensions, and joint weights. So I looked on the web and sure enough, they are all for sale "mainstream".
What surprised me was that the OP said " it's almost impossible to play without one". I found that statement striking. What changed?
I don't keep up with the organized sport anymore, when I watch videos they are from the last century. So I looked at what is going on. I saw one article where a promoter uses fake smoke machines so the tournament looks smoky on camera, to create the expected atmosphere.
They have shirts available that look like they came off a pro bicycle rider. Some kind of "high performance" spandex-like material. I went and looked at Jayson Shaw's high run and he was wearing one. He beat Mosconi, and Schmidt, by a lot. Jason had the shirt, but didn't use an extension. Was it the shirt? Of course, Mosconi's run still stands as an actual competition run.
While Shaw famously popularized playing with a permanent 7-to-10-inch rear extension for years to gain added stability, weight, and reach, he actually removed it before his major straight pool milestones. Was this a stunt? A daredevil maneuver? Like- "Don't try this at home kids."
So, further investigation reveals there is special underwear for pool now as well. And shoes.
Mosconi set his record in actual competition with a Rambo cue. No extension. No spandex. I have no idea what kind of underwear he was wearing. He was wearing black leather dress shoes.
So, these are coming back? Well, except this is made of wood.
On a side note, a few years ago a dude came up to me at the pool hall. He said another dude said to ask me because I knew a lot about cues. He said he wanted to buy a mid extension for his cue but he didn't know how to make sure it matched the taper of his cue. Not kidding.
I have no extension. I might be a daredevil.
How I ever played with a 58" cue is baffling now that I've grown accustomed to 60"- plus an inch or so. Fits my height and arm motion far better.
Last of the Mohicans Doc.Well, I don't usually follow this stuff, but I have noticed some things at the pool hall. The other kids have gizmos and whiz banger attachments.
I see butt extensions, joint extensions, and joint weights. So I looked on the web and sure enough, they are all for sale "mainstream".
What surprised me was that the OP said " it's almost impossible to play without one". I found that statement striking. What changed?
I don't keep up with the organized sport anymore, when I watch videos they are from the last century. So I looked at what is going on. I saw one article where a promoter uses fake smoke machines so the tournament looks smoky on camera, to create the expected atmosphere.
They have shirts available that look like they came off a pro bicycle rider. Some kind of "high performance" spandex-like material. I went and looked at Jayson Shaw's high run and he was wearing one. He beat Mosconi, and Schmidt, by a lot. Jason had the shirt, but didn't use an extension. Was it the shirt? Of course, Mosconi's run still stands as an actual competition run.
While Shaw famously popularized playing with a permanent 7-to-10-inch rear extension for years to gain added stability, weight, and reach, he actually removed it before his major straight pool milestones. Was this a stunt? A daredevil maneuver? Like- "Don't try this at home kids."
So, further investigation reveals there is special underwear for pool now as well. And shoes.
Mosconi set his record in actual competition with a Rambo cue. No extension. No spandex. I have no idea what kind of underwear he was wearing. He was wearing black leather dress shoes.
So, these are coming back? Well, except this is made of wood.
On a side note, a few years ago a dude came up to me at the pool hall. He said another dude said to ask me because I knew a lot about cues. He said he wanted to buy a mid extension for his cue but he didn't know how to make sure it matched the taper of his cue. Not kidding.
I have no extension. I might be a daredevil.
Weight??
Cues were commonly 57, then 58, now 60 is much more common than it once was.
I have a 60 inch Model J Palmer, I had a 60 inch Rich cue, I have a 60 inch Huebler H-14, and more. So they were made decades ago. "special order"
I do like my 60 inch cues.
Oh...and I am shorter than average.
But my Joss is still my "go to" cue, and it is 58.
My 60 inch H-14 Huebler is probably my #2.
My height, combined with an extension, haven't needed a bridge in a long time.
Looks like a timber framed table!!!!
I’ll get back to you…..
I wouldn't let the absence of a butt extension keep me from buying a cue that I really fancied. You should be able to find a local (maybe) cue maker to modify the cue for a butt extension and maybe even build a matching extension, or just use carbon.
Wouldn't the mid cue extension make it more rear weighted? My thinking is that the tip stays in the same place with or without extension so that dictates where you hands are so you would have more of the heavy end of the cue sticking out of the rear.
I typically see most mid-extension users using them to get to a comfortable hand position where they're not falling off the back of the cue rather than keeping the same type of arm/hand position and sliding it forward. So you're right if they were just using it for extra length and keeping their back hand in the same position and relative to their body...but I think most are using them to get a more comfortable position instead. Which is unlike what many people who leave a rear extension on all the time are doing.
I use a 30" shaft, at just a hair shy of 6' that works for me great. I have a buddy who's got a solid 4-5" on me and uses a short mid extension for just that reason, he'd be too cramped on a standard length cue without and couldn't put his hand into the position he uses with his extension. the balance relative to your rear hand doesn't really change in that scenario.
