Mosconi/Reyes/WPM rankings
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Yeah, similar to when Neuhausen jumped in four different balls to neutralize some of the safeties and two-way shots of Filler. Although Filler eventually found the finish line, when an opponent's execution is that good, even the superstars are at risk.
What is frustrating about so many smaller WNT events is the lack of publicly available information on prize-fund breakdowns and thus point distributions for Mosconi/Reyes/WPM points. All we know about the Phoenix Open is the winner gets $20,000.
Matchroom has to do a better job on this.
I’d guess the runner up gets $8,000 to $10,000 and the semifinals $5,000 and the quarterfinalists $3,000.
In any case, every Phoenix quarterfinalist is in the hunt for points except Chang Lu Yung (barring top finishes in both Phoenix and the U.S. Open).
Pecelj and Labutis are longshots for the three automatic Mosconi spots even if they win the Phoenix Open. They need a quarterfinals or better result in Frisco or a high finish in the Philippines Open, the cutoff date.
Filler is first and Szolnoki third in Mosconi points. They will solidify their spots with another win or two.
Styer could overtake Hohmann for second place on points if he got to the finals. Looks like Hohmann is going to get an auto bid, though
Biado probably has taken a small lead as the top Filipino player, which is exactly what Matchroom wants. Yapp is all but assured now to be the top Asian player.
The cutoff date for the Reyes is the U.S. open. The winner could immediately jump to first for qualifying in any of the three Matchroom invitationals.
Matchroom has to do a better job on this.
I’d guess the runner up gets $8,000 to $10,000 and the semifinals $5,000 and the quarterfinalists $3,000.
In any case, every Phoenix quarterfinalist is in the hunt for points except Chang Lu Yung (barring top finishes in both Phoenix and the U.S. Open).
Pecelj and Labutis are longshots for the three automatic Mosconi spots even if they win the Phoenix Open. They need a quarterfinals or better result in Frisco or a high finish in the Philippines Open, the cutoff date.
Filler is first and Szolnoki third in Mosconi points. They will solidify their spots with another win or two.
Styer could overtake Hohmann for second place on points if he got to the finals. Looks like Hohmann is going to get an auto bid, though
Biado probably has taken a small lead as the top Filipino player, which is exactly what Matchroom wants. Yapp is all but assured now to be the top Asian player.
The cutoff date for the Reyes is the U.S. open. The winner could immediately jump to first for qualifying in any of the three Matchroom invitationals.
SVB's biggest lead was 3 games, at 5-2 and 6-3. Then Capito won 7 games in a row to end it, including 4 B&Rs in the last 5 games (two 2-packs, including one 9-ball on the break).
Interesting teams for sure.
Assuming the rankings stay the same as they are now for Mosconi, I would find it hard to believe the USA Captains's pick will be anything other then Mosconi proven players. So for USA it would be:
SVB
Thorsten
Tyler
Fedor
Sky
No other players make any sense as captains picks imo.
For Europe, it's a bit more difficult who get the wildcards. If I were captain it would probably be:
Joshua
Oliver
FSR
Moritz
Shaw
But I might be tempted to switch Moritz for an experienced Mosconi player like Niels.
Assuming the rankings stay the same as they are now for Mosconi, I would find it hard to believe the USA Captains's pick will be anything other then Mosconi proven players. So for USA it would be:
SVB
Thorsten
Tyler
Fedor
Sky
No other players make any sense as captains picks imo.
For Europe, it's a bit more difficult who get the wildcards. If I were captain it would probably be:
Joshua
Oliver
FSR
Moritz
Shaw
But I might be tempted to switch Moritz for an experienced Mosconi player like Niels.
Even a hybrid U.S. team of Americans and Europens won't be enough to threaten Team Europe. Maybe one more Euro convert and it will get close. Jayson Shaw maybe?
Badpenguin
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The obvious difference to me is that Bergman has _never_ won anything of consequence. The other US players may not have shown up much this year, but at least they have at some point in the last few years. In my opinion, the Mosconi Cup is not the place to prove yourself, the tournaments that lead up to it are.
Your position is quite sensible. I wouldn’t argue if Sky was picked. But to me, Mosconi selection should be based heavily on commitment.
Sky has played in just two WNT events this year. His money earnings are on track to be the lowest since 2013 excluding the pandemic year. He has been scarce all around and appears to have taken the Mosconi for granted.
Maybe he has valid financial or personal reasons, but it’s irrelevant to me.
Bergman, who’s a bit reclusive, has tried harder to get on the team and he has been bothered by how well the U.S. has performed. That’s the attitude I want.
Bergman has, of course, has also played in the Mosconi before. He is not a newbie.
Sky seems to treat it like a show. It is a show, but I want players to take it very seriously. Not because I want the U.S. to win so much. But because it’s great drama and TV for a sport that needs it.
Any U.S. team with two of the world’s best three players always has a chance, Jay. And thankfully the team has a real coach. Last two years of a player-coach were a disaster. JJ wasn’t good at it, either.
I'd like to see CJ Wiley be coach one day.
American coaches/captains don't seem to work out very well for Team USA.
I'd pay to watch Earl Strickland coach Team Europe though
Endless drama, just like how Frazer wants it. Sprinkle in Jeremy Jones as vice-coach for added spice. F it, let's switch things up a bit.
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Wiley was captain in 2012. Team Europe won 11-9
Close match!
What are the duties of the captain/coach in the Mosconi? They are not going to change anything a player does over the short span of the Mosconi.
See: History of Johan Ruijsink's previous approach as captain of the last U.S. winning Mosconi teams in 2018 and 2019.
They could. When I backed players I coached them on a daily basis so they would play their best pool. The mental side of pro pool makes all the difference!
Tyler Styer would earn 3,000 points if he beats Billy Thorpe today and move to second place in the USA Mosconi rankings. He would pass Thorsten Hohmann by the slim count of 25,470 to 25,050
A win would qualify him for the final 64. Players who finish 33-64 get $3,000 apiece. He'd keep racking up points the further he went.
Hohmann got knocked out last night and won't get any points from the US Open.
The last event for which players can obtain points would be the Philippines Open.
A win would qualify him for the final 64. Players who finish 33-64 get $3,000 apiece. He'd keep racking up points the further he went.
Hohmann got knocked out last night and won't get any points from the US Open.
The last event for which players can obtain points would be the Philippines Open.
Remarkably candid remarks from Sklyer Woodward about his poor play recently. This what he told a WNT interviewer after a win yesterday.
“It feels good to actually practice for a week. I can show up at a tournament and actually start off playing good instead of trying to play myself into stroke, like I have been the last year or two.
Just telling the truth. It actually does feel good to be playing good the whole time instead of up and down. It’s nice."
Woodward said he was upset at his poor play and early exit from the Arizona Open. He recounted his reaction:
“Well, I said a few nasty words. I called my wife, and said, look, babe, clear my pool table off. When I get home. it’s all on. I’m practicing.
I haven’t had motivation since before Covid, really. I don’t know what it is. It finally triggered me. It feels good to actually want to play pool again instead of just show up at the tournament and play. I can get in stroke within in a couple of matches, but it feels good to practice and feel way more confident and comfortable over the ball."
“It feels good to actually practice for a week. I can show up at a tournament and actually start off playing good instead of trying to play myself into stroke, like I have been the last year or two.
Just telling the truth. It actually does feel good to be playing good the whole time instead of up and down. It’s nice."
Woodward said he was upset at his poor play and early exit from the Arizona Open. He recounted his reaction:
“Well, I said a few nasty words. I called my wife, and said, look, babe, clear my pool table off. When I get home. it’s all on. I’m practicing.
I haven’t had motivation since before Covid, really. I don’t know what it is. It finally triggered me. It feels good to actually want to play pool again instead of just show up at the tournament and play. I can get in stroke within in a couple of matches, but it feels good to practice and feel way more confident and comfortable over the ball."
Scrunge19
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Sure sounds like someone who deserved to be on the team the last several years, let alone be the captain of that team…