Why don't more bars lease Diamond pool tables?

Not to mention that people who play in bars for the most part couldn't give two $h17s as to which they're playing on.
Let's face it. People that play on bar boxes in bars enjoy the competition but enjoy the comradery even more especially in a league environment, teams like APA or TAP.
Nothing wrong with that. To each their own.
There is nothing like a poolroom with well maintained 9 footers I'm my opinion. That's just me.

Two completely different scenarios.
That being said, in my area at least, there are plenty of 9 foot killer players that play bar tournaments once or twice even on weekends because there are tons of tournaments being run in bars.
They just relish playing pool.
 
If i opened a bar today i'd go looking for decent used Valley's EVERY time. Get decent balls and cueballs and you're good. NO way i'd spend 6dimes on Diamonds.

For a couple of years a while back, I played in some weekend tournaments at a firehouse. Two rooms of Valleys. About 8 Valley tables that played incredibly well.
There was a very fastidious table mechanic that played in those tournaments and he was absolutely dead serious about his table work, tweaking everything and done well.
 
In the small town I live near it's all Valley tables without the mud balls , I'm not sure what is available in the bars in Great Falls however I'd venture to guess there would be a mix of both Valley and Diamond pool tables .

I for one would prefer diamond 9' tables instead or even better yet 5' x 10' tables with tight pockets !
Isn’t Montana the home of the Valley 8’ table? Although I think it is moving toward Diamonds. I talk with a guy who used to play a ton in Butte and elsewhere around MT. Someday we’ll head up to a MT bar box event.
 
Barbox balls that roll bad usually have a misplaced weight inside.
Yeah, played league at a place recently with poorly maintained tables and rough balls. One of the cue balls rolled bad. So you had a chance at a good roll if the cue ball wobble cancelled a table roll. 😝

Not Valleys and not the decent Valley/ Aramith ball.
 
dont confuse a drinking bar with a table. and a bar with more tables that has leagues.

generally bad equipment will benefit the better players as they can adjust for it and use it to their advantage.

if you just blindly play and don't think then you are the one at risk.

a cue ball that rolls off hurts the bar players as they hit all shots too softly. so your firm hits will be better.
 
Over the years I have been in some of the worst places you can imagine. It is possible for valleys to play well if not great. However it’s rarely the table alone thats the problem. Last week I played in one of the worst rooms I have ever been in. Valley table with dead spots on rails. Worm slow cloth, mud cue ball, old dirty balls that didn’t even match, dim light, super flimsy plastic rack. All of this compounded by a thick cloud of smoke. I told my team captain never again will I play there.
 
Over the years I have been in some of the worst places you can imagine. It is possible for valleys to play well if not great. However it’s rarely the table alone thats the problem. Last week I played in one of the worst rooms I have ever been in. Valley table with dead spots on rails. Worm slow cloth, mud cue ball, old dirty balls that didn’t even match, dim light, super flimsy plastic rack. All of this compounded by a thick cloud of smoke. I told my team captain never again will I play there.
I've played in a gillion spots like this.
 
Seems like a lot of exaggerating going on here. Valley cue balls may not play like a red circle or a measle ball but they dont make the game unplayable. If you find it to be that bad why are you going to a bar to play pool? There must be a pool hall around that has better tables or find a bar with a Diamond.
Well come on out to the wilds of the middle of Montana and show me where these pool halls are that aren't 100 + miles away in just one direction ha ha when George Frank had the Corner Pocket Billards going strong many years ago yes pool halls were a bit more common until a host of things happened and they all faded into the sunset .
 
Well come on out to the wilds of the middle of Montana and show me where these pool halls are that aren't 100 + miles away in just one direction ha ha when George Frank had the Corner Pocket Billards going strong many years ago yes pool halls were a bit more common until a host of things happened and they all faded into the sunset .

I've had a couple of poolrooms close on me. It's terrible. It's like a kid losing their playground. Inconsolable when it happens.
 
If I were to open a bar/poolhall, It would have multiple rooms, the only bar boxes I would get would be diamond blue label; however, I would be promoting league, probably have league 4 nights a week, a barbox tourney one night a week and a bigger one once a month and a big table tourney one day a week, maybe two depending on business and a big table tourney once a month. The bar boxes and dart boards would be in one room and the ninefooters in another.
 
I've had a couple of poolrooms close on me. It's terrible. It's like a kid losing their playground. Inconsolable when it happens.
I had a Corner Pocket within easy walking distance from my house it was great while it lasted !
I still miss those 9' tables ! Even when I lived in Billings it was fairly close to the Broadwater Corner Pocket .
 
If I were to open a bar/poolhall, It would have multiple rooms, the only bar boxes I would get would be diamond blue label; however, I would be promoting league, probably have league 4 nights a week, a barbox tourney one night a week and a bigger one once a month and a big table tourney one day a week, maybe two depending on business and a big table tourney once a month. The bar boxes and dart boards would be in one room and the ninefooters in another.
You must live in a large city to consider a pool room of that size . I hope you can make it happen some day !
 
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