Strange Cue ID- For Fun

[jay helfert]

It looks like a lot of false information produced by AI is driving a lot of that.

It is not hallucination either.

It gets much information from forums, Facebook, Reddit, etc.

It can't see actual sold prices for accepted offers on eBay, so it uses asking prices for values.

Additionally, people are using AI to identify cues, which it commonly gets wrong.

It's also designed to stroke you, so it will say "Wow! What a discovery of a rare collectible cue!" Unless you know how to prompt it not to do that.

In this case, the cue was listed as: "Pampanga Custom Pool Cue 4 Point Inlays"




There you see it, the shaft was listed as maple. And Pampanga? And 18 pin?

You can see in the pictures it is a 14 pin.

As my thread title says "strange".

Here in this forum, people recognized that shaft was not maple right away and I think most knew it was raminwood.

And it went for $305 plus $15.93 shipping.

There are two cuemakers that I know of here in Pampanga. Looks like it could be from one of them. They often use cheap wood imported from Malaysia or Indonesia, prone to warping. This cue would sell new here for about 10,000P, which is about $150.

 

[Chopdoc]

There are two cuemakers that I know of here in Pampanga. Looks like it could be from one of them. They often use cheap wood imported from Malaysia or Indonesia, prone to warping. This cue would sell new here for about 10,000P, which is about $150.

Thank you.

I do think it was assembled there with KPS parts. Or at least the shaft was made there. It's just too random that an exact, and I do mean exact, KPS design would be identified as a Pampanga cue. The cue I posted was almost certainly refinished though. We can tell because these cues almost universally develop a slight finish ridge along the butt rings which this one does not have, and the bottom edge of the butt cap has been slightly rounded indicating sanding.

The top level Orchid cues are nice. I have several. I bought one brand new (NOS) 1990s one for $150. The others I probably paid around $100 for.

To give an idea of what they went for back then we can see this 1997 cue with original invoice for $250 which would be about $525 today.

It happens to be the exact same model and sold 2-20-2024 for $170 after 12 bids. But again, the cue this thread is about had a raminwood shaft.

There are several varieties of logo on these cues, some from Germany, some US, others Asian. Some say "USA", some don't. Some of them were "white label" and sold through a variety of distributors.

Occasionally you will find an Orchid among some nice cues in a collection. LINK

 

[Mensabum]

Thank you.

I do think it was assembled there with KPS parts. Or at least the shaft was made there. It's just too random that an exact, and I do mean exact, KPS design would be identified as a Pampanga cue. The cue I posted was almost certainly refinished though. We can tell because these cues almost universally develop a slight finish ridge along the butt rings which this one does not have, and the bottom edge of the butt cap has been slightly rounded indicating sanding.

The top level Orchid cues are nice. I have several. I bought one brand new (NOS) 1990s one for $150. The others I probably paid around $100 for.

To give an idea of what they went for back then we can see this 1997 cue with original invoice for $250 which would be about $525 today.

It happens to be the exact same model and sold 2-20-2024 for $170 after 12 bids. But again, the cue this thread is about had a raminwood shaft.

There are several varieties of logo on these cues, some from Germany, some US, others Asian. Some say "USA", some don't. Some of them were "white label" and sold through a variety of distributors.

Occasionally you will find an Orchid among some nice cues in a collection. LINK

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Nice looking cue. My fave color scheme. Red white, black. Dark forearm

 

[Chopdoc]

Nice looking cue. My fave color scheme. Red white, black. Dark forearm

I dig those colors as well.