Dead ball hit

[Island Drive]

Reading Brernies kicking system. Walt Harris "the systems reporter" said. Stroke is very important ..... absolutely dead ball English tip tip and ROLL BALL SOFTLY, much like a lag. Cue stick hits up with a short bridge. Is he hitting his dead ball, middle or above center? Dead ball sounds like??? Below center7

 

[Saturated Fats]

Never heard of "Brernies". Is it spelled right? Where'd you find it?

 

[straightline]

4/5ths high was the rule for perfect rolling. Guessing the ball needs to be 100% hooked up (to the cloth) before it hits the cushion. Hitting below center would be Filipino follow - for wet tables and probably not billiards. Don't know the actual spec.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

4/5ths high was the rule for perfect rolling.

Sounds right. You're trying to hit with "gearing rolling english" on the table surface, and for that Dr. Dave says you need to hit 2/5 of the distance from centerball to the top edge - 4/5 of maximum offset.

pj
chgo

 

[Tennesseejoe]

Never heard of "Brernies". Is it spelled right? Where'd you find it?

Just google it...it is there.

 

[CajunPopeye]

Just google it...it is there.

KICKING/FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH~~by Bernie Friend​

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Thread 'KICKING/FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH~~by Bernie Friend'

Nov 19, 2006

just thought i'd share some thoughts on kicking,for what it's worth.
to me kicking is more sensible than jumping. true it depends on the lie of the shot,yes, but all in all, it's much wiser to kick,than jump. it's a better chance of doing something positive with the object ball, be it playing a safe,or making it,with jumping,there is a lot of danger that goes with being a "hero" with that in mind,let's jump,exuse me let's go to kicking. now, there are players out there, especially from japan,that use different types of mathmatical diamond systems,the problem with that,is ,you have to rely...

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[Bob Jewett]

Reading Brernies kicking system. Walt Harris "the systems reporter" said. Stroke is very important ..... absolutely dead ball English tip tip and ROLL BALL SOFTLY, much like a lag. Cue stick hits up with a short bridge. Is he hitting his dead ball, middle or above center? Dead ball sounds like??? Below center7

Are you maybe referring to page 14 of the book, "The Billiards Atlas on Systems and Techniques (Vol. 1)", by Walt Harris?

If so, the suggestion is from Bernie Wishengrad, and not "Brernie".

Dead ball in this case means no side spin. Hoppe used the term differently.

 

[Bob Jewett]

...by Bernie Friend​

That Bernie is a character that surfaced during the days of the IPT. As I recall, he was more character than player.

The Bernie who contributed to Walt Harris's billiard books is Bernie Wishengrad.

 

[maha]

best kick is dead ball. center cue ball hit lower speeds. no english so it always goes the same way off the rails. english and it lengthens and shortens with the tiniest bit off center of the hit. thats dead ball from old school talk.

of course most times you need to do something extra for other reasons than just to make the hit. as seen from efren.

other dead balls is one that cant miss
or very low hit drag so cue ball goes forward and slides some and dies quicker.

 

[straightline]

best kick is dead ball. center cue ball hit lower speeds. no english so it always goes the same way off the rails. english and it lengthens and shortens with the tiniest bit off center of the hit. thats dead ball from old school talk.

of course most times you need to do something extra for other reasons than just to make the hit. as seen from efren.

other dead balls is one that cant miss
or very low hit drag so cue ball goes forward and slides some and dies quicker.

So many "system" players add running english to any kick; certainly all rail firsts. IMO a great many of them would benefit by simply observing how the ball bends without the running english.

 

[bbb]

to me dead ball in a billiard system is no side spin or draw...ie follow or sliding
jmho
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