Derby City Classic, 2027, Jan. 22-31, Fri-Sun

briankenobi said:
Here is a take that some might not agree with, but I feel is accurate. DCC was never meant to be a straight pro tournament. It was meant to be an open tournament that a lot of the pros show up to. And the people talking about the payouts or the schedule have been at DCC for years and years and know what to expect. DCC is what it is. It isn't matchroom and never will be. If people don't like the payouts or the schedule that much, they don't have to show up. DCC will fill the spots. There is always a waitlist. That just opens the door for other players to get the titles.
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Didn't entry in one of the tournaments also provide you with admission to all of the matches? That was one of the incentives.
 
briankenobi said:
Here is a take that some might not agree with, but I feel is accurate. DCC was never meant to be a straight pro tournament. It was meant to be an open tournament that a lot of the pros show up to. And the people talking about the payouts or the schedule have been at DCC for years and years and know what to expect. DCC is what it is. It isn't matchroom and never will be. If people don't like the payouts or the schedule that much, they don't have to show up. DCC will fill the spots. There is always a waitlist. That just opens the door for other players to get the titles.
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i agree, but aren't the above mentioned rule changes made with the purpose of not loosing more pros? in the end it's them that have been doing the past-midnight slugs. i hope they succeed
 
briankenobi said:
Here is a take that some might not agree with, but I feel is accurate. DCC was never meant to be a straight pro tournament. It was meant to be an open tournament that a lot of the pros show up to. And the people talking about the payouts or the schedule have been at DCC for years and years and know what to expect. DCC is what it is. It isn't matchroom and never will be. If people don't like the payouts or the schedule that much, they don't have to show up. DCC will fill the spots. There is always a waitlist. That just opens the door for other players to get the titles.
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This is fact, not conjecture. Greg Sullivan has made the comment on numerous occasions that the Derby is an open event geared to the amateur and semi-pro player more than the pro. It was always his intention for it to be this way.

Nonetheless, the importance of the pro players to keeping the action part of the Derby vibrant is not lost on him. As he conceived the event to be a revival of the Johnston City events, he cares very much about the action side of the Derby. For this reason, he understands the presence of the pros to be vital, as well.
 
sjm said:
Yeah, payouts could be a little better for sure, but they did increase last year, with winners getting $20,000 in each division.

To be fair, the event is not set up to give the amateurs/semi-pros a good chance to make a profit. Many of the ones I know don't even exercise the buy back. If you enter and buy back in each of the three core events, your participation expense, assuming you have a roommate is about $1,500 and it's awfully difficult to cash for that amount, probably requiring a top ten finish in at least one event. Of course, the nearly elite players can make decent scores in the action room if they have the pedigree and know how to match up, and that keeps many of them coming year after year.

Of course, yours is the story of pro pool today in general. Except at the majors, only a few have much profit to show for their efforts after expenses. Not that many who go to the Derby expect to make a profit. The thrill for a lot of entrants is the chance to play against some of the true stars of pro pool. Many who don't play pool for a living would like to try their hand against a Filler, Gorst, SVB, or some other well-known pro, but only a few ever get the chance. At the Derby, win a few matches and there's a good chance you'll draw one or more of them at some point.

For most who play in the Derby City Classic, it's a vacation, not a money-making venture.
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Yeah don't get me wrong it isn't about "making money" for me. But I'd prefer to just hand Fedor Shane and FIller 20 each than have the entire $100 of my $100 buyback effectly disappear(as far as I'm concerned anyway). I will still likely buy back of course because that $100 is far cheaper entertainment than the thousands I'd be risking in the casino. And I love a good workout against strong competition too. Anyway I just think it's a shame that $0 of it can be won back by 99% of those who pay it, that's all.
 
but playing a top player isnt playing a top player. its watching a top player run balls from a nearby seat.

if you want to play one make a game with him and gamble. you will get plenty of shots if you make it right and may even win or at least win games.
and get to talk and interact with him.
 
middleofnowhere said:
Didn't entry in one of the tournaments also provide you with admission to all of the matches? That was one of the incentives.
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It still is. At one point, entry into the bank pool tournament was less than the full event spectator pass. there would be plenty of people who would enter the banks and either not buy back or just forfeit their first round match and be in action all week.
 
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