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Thanks i have settled on the 314-2 for now maybe upgrade latter or spend the money on a break cue later, thanks for the case info though.

JoeyA, Johnnyz86, scottjen26, thank you, thats what i was looking for good well thought out replies on what i needed to know, everyone had great advice on this subject, but i think i just need to back off a little, im getting cue happy, 314-2 will be a hell of a step up from anything i was using...

How do you like the Z-2 compared to the 314-2?

Thanks for the suggestions I will keep that in mind, but for now adding anything but a predator shaft to my order would blow my budget big time.

Well I did a little research and that diameter of the Black Dot shaft I got good results from was 12.75 so I am going to go with the 314-2, same diameter and more forgiving. I also found as many pros as i could that played with either and it seems that more pros really do play with the 314 than...

Anything specific you dont like about the Z-2 or just didnt care for it. What made the Z-2 more difficult to play with?

Thanks for the reply I am 90% on getting the Z-2, because this will be my only playing cue for a good while. I am looking for something I wont have to upgrade for a while. I will have lots of time to practice with it and I am sure I can get used to it. The only cues I have shot with are...

I am buying a new Predator 4 Point Sneaky Pete S/S Joint, No Wrap and they offer a shaft upgrade for $21.25, 314-2 upgraded to a Z-2, is it worth it?

Predator 314-2 or Z-2? They have a option to upgrade to the Z-2 Shaft for $21.25 is it a good deal should I do it? Like I said this cue will probably be my main shooter for a while.

I have a Kimber Custom II and love it, added trijicon night sights to it, it is now my night stand gun, did you ever end up getting your Kimber? I'm so tactical I am banned in California! lol

Thanks for all the advice i will keep this stuff in mind. I hope everyone on here is like this all this first hand experience, and the willingness to share it is going to help me when I hit a ceiling in my play.

I was just thinking maybe it would offer a firm hit, do you notice any significant difference hit in a steel joint compared to your wood to wood?

How do you do this exactly, and do i really need it, i figure my shaft isnt going to get beat up i wont use talc on it its going to be burnished and i am using a sir joseph glove?

I thank you greatly for that bit of information, i dont think i am going to get the tapper, or the tip burnisher. I wouldnt have added the Tiger Leather Burnisher or the Q Smooth Set if i knew the Q-wiz did all that. No wonder its has such good ratings. As far as cases i think i am pretty set...

I was thinking the same thing maybe buying a 2x2 because I want to get my own break cue somewhere down the road but i am still a well above average bar player, I am looking to step my game up, but a 2x2 case and a jump/break cue went over my budget. Maybe just the bigger case for now and a new...

Thanks Thank you for all the replies, and the welcome, I'm pretty new to playing pool seriously, but I am in it full bore so i want to get set up here is my whole list of products that I am going to order once i get some good feedback or not order if i get negative, please let me know what you...

I am going to purchase a Predator Sneaky Pete with a 314-2 shaft, i was wondering what the difference is in wood to wood or their stainless steel joint? is either one better or is it just what your prefer?