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Yep, points indicate that as well. Probably still started at about $70 or so.

Looks like a Model D, Second catalog, however different shaft collar rings. From the factory in 1973, the Mode D was $70.00. More now, though depending on condition, straightness, etc.

So, which one you want to be buried with? I get the other one. :cool:

I thought I saw it somewhere in your collection of devices.

Yep, that middle on for me too. I'm not that much a fan of floating points, and the middle one is perfect.

Oh you know something? I was thinking of the Joss Diamond Series cue with that pattern, at least in the buttsleeve.

Not much I can add to that, except there were some Varner cues definitely made by Joss, for some time. The second one sure has the pattern of one of yours. There definitely was collaboration amongst Joss, Rempe, Sigel, and Varner.

That's my understanding too. There are Asian imports for about everything cue-related. In fact, from Guangzhou China, you can get designer handbags, wallets, shoes, every luxury watch brand, even used looking silver dollars. All fake. In the case of cues, some of them don't hide themselves...

Yep, that looks like a match for the Tyler V-12. Also, the references do show that Sigel's signature ended up on some Joss cues.

I appreciate that. I've been at the hobby for about 53 years. It also helps to have a super autobiographical memory when it comes to point length, dimension, bumper, buttplate, wrap, period, etc. Maybe it's a disease... :cool: I do have the earliest known Joss cue to me by its identity...

I seem to remember those two brands being made by the same outfit as well.

I appreciate the compliment, but you have plenty of "Chops" when it comes to Joss cues as well. No pun intended.

Some better pictures would be useful, such as the tip of the points, the joint collars, the joint pin, and the bumper. However, there are some cues that Joss built that did not say Joss on them. In the early 80s, Jim Rempe played with a butterfly point cue that was taken as an Adam cue, but it...

Neither alcohol nor damp napkin. Alcohol dries your tip, you don't want that. Just use a paper towel to wipe the chalk off the tip, while burnishing the side of it, and the ferrule, as well.

Very standard Simonis green. Don't remember if they were calling it Tournament Green then.

Jenny, do you remember Geese winning the Maryland straight pool tournament, held in Bill & Billies, their second location, that industrial section of Glen Burnie, something like early 80s? We'd just suffered through the longest match in history, between Mike Adams and Ed Cecanes (RIP), the...

Yep, don't use a third party photo app like Photobucket, etc. Take the pictures, and size them so they fit. They'll never get deleted or blurred out.

Nice cue. Ebony Titlist cues are pretty rare, as most were other woods. The joint is interesting. It looks like a joint that Gordon Hart did, and in the very early days, Dick Helmstetter did some similar joints.

Nice cues, Doc. I thought I had a cue addiction.

You're a young buck.