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Calvin who??? It doesn't surprise me that a lot of people don't know Calvin. He doesn't play much pool outside of Orange County California. Calvin isn't big on head to head money matchups but he's still one of my favorite players in the game. Straight Pool is Calvin's forte - a game that isn't...

B-player, huh. Nice move, Russ. Bobby LeBlanc would need to give you some weight in One-Pocket. My buddy, Darin (dr221 here on AZ), would be a good game for you - usually at Pool Sharks. Michael Brown likes to play 14.1, if you're up for that. All good guys. Tell them Ernie sent you.

Copping out??? Well Frank, that was a great read but I was hoping you were going to nail down which players or which generation of players had the nuts. I know you've seen more than just a few players in your long career. Sure, there are difficulties in comparing players from different eras but...

Russ, this thread reminded me it's been a long time since we hooked up. Let's do something, anything - even if it's wrong - after summer's over, OK. Be good and shoot 'em straight.

I really enjoyed that story, Jimmy. Don't hesitate to keep 'em coming. You have an appreciative audience here.

On the left coast, I'd give the nod to Warren "the Monk" Costanza. I wouldn't know if he's the best but if Freddie the Beard was still around, I'm sure he'd give high mark to the Monk.

14.1 and 9-ball Very nice Frank. That pretty much sums up what I think about both games, only your words are much better than anything I could've come up with.

From what I understand, this event was no cakewalk for Mike. Has anyone heard anything different?

Mike Massey, a pro??? I haven't looked at the BCAPL definition of a pro player but it has me wondering if Mike is still considered a pro. When was the last time he played in a pro event?

No one from the Santa Barbara Moose Lodge is a member of AZ but if I hear anything, I'll pass it on. (For that matter, I think I'm the only member of the SBPL who posts on AZ)

I'm confident the SBPL / BCAPL will deal with the Rigo Morales incident properly. I just fail to understand how this has anything to do with Mark's first response. Or were you just trying to follow me around the various threads so you can hound me for being a member of the SBPL?

Facts? WE CAN"T HANDLE THE FACTS! We survive on speculation and innuendo. Overall, my team and I had a wonderful and memorable time in Las Vegas. We look forward to doing it all over again. Thanks for all your hard work, Mark.

Yes, I'll do my part ... Thanks Jay. I'll look into this as best as I can. My immediate focus is to recover from a week in Vegas - lots of bills to pay and plenty of work to do round the house. :)

I'm not looking to dispute any of this. I wasn't there to say it didn't happen as you described. I'm not sure if I know you, at least by your AZ handle, so I can't tell if I can totally accept your account of the situation. Like I said, Gilbert's view of this would help since I do know him as a...

Thanks for clearing up your thoughts on this. When you said Rigo's teammates "look like a motley crew as well", I took it to be a slam on them. If your judgement comes from the reported allegations ... well, OK. I'm still trying to sort out the teammates' involvement before making MY judgement...

Thanks for the heads-up. I look forward to paying a visit on my return to Vegas, possibly in a couple of months.

Well, let me tell you about those teammates, Jay ... Jay, it looks like you made some harsh judgements from one team picture. I'm fairly certain none of them are related. The fella you mentioned above is the team captain, Alfonso - a nice easy-going guy who has a carpet cleaning business...

Nice. You got your little zinger in there, didn't you Mr Nostroke?

So did those two monsters go 2-and-out, or are they still shooting? If they're still in it, they've escaped my watchful eye. This isn't easy to do since I have a history of picking out players who are laying down a stall.

I'm going with 5' 7".