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  1. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    This thread got off a little. The point I am making is the same one I made in a previous post of a different thread I could not find. Not talking throw or curve. The statement was very simple as follows; If you hit a CB directly into an OB (no angles here) with side English, it will NOT...
  2. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    I fully understand collision induced spin. This topic has nothing to do with that. This topic was in reference to side spin on the CB in a direct hit and that it does not cause side spin on the OB. Instead a twist occurs causing top right or top left English. Please review page 1 where there is...
  3. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    Felt friction is a major contributor, without it the outcome would be different. Anyway, I am describing what happens in the real world for pool player. What to take notice of that can change the shot. eg. Side spin and running english are not the same. The earlier thread stated side spin...
  4. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    Yes, that is what I stated in my first post. Simply put, the force of the ball moving forward - spin plus felt friction results in a twist. The forward motion is the primary energy. More importantly, this thread is about what the player should expect when applying side spin because...
  5. pete lafond

    A new test

    This is only for info. No plans to package it yet. Just got a lab sample of modified super non-stick SlipStic in liquid form that forms a super thin (not noticeable) layer that actually solidifies. It should last for a year or so and will not allow penetration and repels everything. The only...
  6. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    Add in the felt result in a twist. This is why I always tell players who ask how to aim to always lock in on the OB before pulling the trigger. This gives the player a chance to really see the entire shot. Unless they are brand new players I tell them to forget the ghost ball if they should...
  7. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    It's the effect. What I am saying is different what everyone else had been saying before. Point. My earlier statement was that (in far a away prevous post) there is no way the the CB imparts side english on the OB when hit with side english. In other words the OB does not travel forward...
  8. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    No confusion here. I am discussing the effects that take place are not to be misleading to those that think side spin causes side spin. In fact a twist occurs resulting in a diagonal one. The accuracy of this is important to the outcome expected.
  9. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    In the case you are taking about; This works because of two reasons. 1. the CB stops and no longer interferes with the shot ahead. 2. If the 8 ball and the ball in front of it are closer, this allows the first ball, 8 ball, to travel forward with forward spin more readily. Top spin and bottom...
  10. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    See the illustration in my earlier post. You will see that it will affect a bank as most expect it to. This is very credible and important information especially in playing safeties in nine ball. I have seen many poor safeties when players are trying to bury the OB. Knowing how to affect the...
  11. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    Yes it does but would travel much longer off the rail given an OB with side english only. In my original statement, I stated that a CB spinning sideways does not cause the OB to spin sideways. Only the rails and balls hit at an angle can cause this (this is why cross banks work). The reason...
  12. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    Yes, this is very important because now the angle of attact plus english on the CB plus speed will effect the outcome. Understanding this or not is the difference in making difficult banks when needed.
  13. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    You are correct about the curve that takes place with side spin which is what puts side spin on the OB. This is why when testing it is important to not allow the curve to affect this shot to prove this point. What happens with side spin is that the combination of the spin plus the friction of...
  14. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    Try this; Align a stripe ball so that the stripe is sideways. Hit the CB into it directly with left spin. You should see the stripe going diagonally and not sideways. The effect is a twist that occurs as a result of the CB spin and the OB against the felt.
  15. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    I'll explain Yes if you are a good banker you should know that this transfer does not occur, otherwise the OB will travel longer off the rail on a bank when outside English is applied. It just doesn't. Each time the CB hits an OB directly the OB reacts in some way as a result of the spin on...
  16. pete lafond

    Side spin does not transfer

    There was an earlier post were I made a comment about side spin not transferring from CB to OB. I couldn't find it and remember several players and instructors attempted to say I was incorrect. This has bugged me but I didn't have a chance to respond. My statement was clearly that hitting the...
  17. pete lafond

    Stain on cloth ?

    Hi Steve. Felt is not a very durable fabric. Water alone can cause lightened or white spots. You need to find a good dry cleaning agent for the table. FYI. I have spent a lot of time working out a formulation for a felt guard and believe me felt reacts differently from other materials. So...
  18. pete lafond

    HH 3-line system (HOLE?)

    I think the best way to determine, or even develop, the best aiming method is to try it out on super tight pockets. That is on a table that just won't take a shot if it touches the rail first and will not go in if hit to less than 1/2 inch to the outer part of the pocket face. Play all...
  19. pete lafond

    Soft Hands

    I agree. Soft does imply tacky. The best thing is to not put anything on your cue shaft. And I have heard many players yield to a glove because their hands get very sweaty especially in the summer months. I do not use a glove because; 1. I lose important feel. , 2. It twists and move around...
  20. pete lafond

    Jacking up to draw on bar equipment???

    You may be hitting the CB to.. hard or to low. A good draw stroke requires a smooth stroke that accelerates (picks up speed gradually). Jack up the back hand very slightly and hit at just below center. In a good draw stroke you should be able to feel the CB rub against the felt through your back...
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