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When it comes to analyzing/comparing a specific shot (cb-ob-pocket relationship) on different size tables, it makes sense to compare table sizes from a referenced/targeted pocket. Example: Let's say we have a halfball shot into a corner pocket. The ob is 1 foot from the side rail and 40"...

This would be better if you anchored each table outline to one of the corner pockets on the 9ft table. That would show the overlapping surface area between a 7ft and a 9ft table. The point I've been trying to drive home, in the face of adamant dismissal (lol), is this: Any shot in that...

? Seriously, it's more of an observation than an analysis. By simply observing the shots faced most often, it's obvious that table size doesn’t make much of a difference most of the time, meaning no more accuracy than normal is needed. But if a player continues to leave long shots due to...

I understand. My point was simply to show that despite what many players believe, there are just a few shots on a 9ft table that the player will never face on a 7ft table. And I realize I'm going against the grain here by saying that, but it doesn't make it untrue. If anything, it should help...

Lol. So there's actually a right and wrong way to analyze? Do what I said. Go to youtube and pull up any pro 9ball or 10ball or 8ball match on a 9ft table. All you have to do is watch a couple of games. There might be 1 or 2 shots out the rack that are actually shots you'd never face on a...

I get your point, but I don't think you get mine. When watching about any match on a 9ft table between good players, you'll see that we very seldom leave a mile of distance between the cb and ob, and we tend to shoot balls into the nearest or most convenient pocket most of the time. In other...

That's two different shots, and not what I'm talking about. In your example the distance between cb and ob, as well as ob and pocket, are different based on table size. So of course the shots aren't the same when it comes to difficulty or margin for error. However, if you look at that cut...

Good point. My diagram simply shows that most of the shots you face on a 9ft table are the same shots you face on a barbox. A particular shot might LOOK different on a small table, compared to the same shot on a big table, but it's still the same shot.

Could be bad/inconsistent stroke mechanics. Could be inconsistent body/stance alignment. Could be bad estimation of the aim/center ob. But I agree it's a good way of testing all of these things.

Here are two overhead shots after the break (9ball on a 9ft table). The white lines represent barbox size if the shots were to be played on a barbox, rather than the 9 footer. Good position on the 3 ball is indicated by the position zone shown in the bottom pic. If the player leaves the cb in...

That depends on the game, and the specific barbox. On a Valley barbox, you are probably right. On a Diamond barbox with decent corner pocket shelves, it really depends on the game, due to more clutter possibilities on the smaller table. I bet a good analysis between 9ft and 7ft play would...

That is tight! Very impressive. I've run 8 out in 1-pocket on a tight table (3 7/8") a few times, but 3 7/8 inch pockets are huge pockets compared to this!

It's definitely beneficial to practice on tighter pockets, as long as it's not so difficult that you get frustrated or bored due to lack of pocketing balls. That would not be a good practice session. I agree that in the long run, over time, practice and play on a 9ft does help with certain...

Honestly, most shots we face on a 9ft are exactly the same as on a 7ft, requiring no additional accuracy or skill. There are some exceptions, but not many. Some shots are harder to reach on a 9ft, and of course that extra 2ft comes into play on a shot here and there, which requires more...

I agree 100%.

You're right. Plenty of players have proved it. But, as Bob points out, it would likely be a longer road to travel for anyone looking to be a decent player.

Absolutely. I mean, we can direct the cue from behind our backs, and we can stand in awkward positions on occasion and still stroke the cue along the proper line. But if you used these awkward stances on every shot for a whole set, you would definitively miss a lot more shots than normal. The...

It could simply be your alignment. Let's say your cue delivery/stroke is good and consistent, and let's say your aiming is excellent. This combination should result in very consistent play, where missing a shot is a rare occurrence. But what happens if you don't get your body/stance...

Good points. I guess my main reason for this thread is to point out how rediculous it is to pin most missed shots on poor/flawed stroke delivery. Many players buy into this belief, even though there is no research to back up that belief. I actually did a little aiming experiment a few years...

Knowledge, experience, and practice leads to winning. Unfortunately, this little meme is too true, and that's sad...