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- - Does Searing build a 8 point V- groove points- I have never seen one? Does B. Szamboti build a 8 point V- groove points- I have never seen one? Does Schick build a 8 point V- groove points- I have never seen one? Does Stroud build a 8 point V- groove points- I have never seen one? Ive seen...

- -The two that you have shown with the ebony forearm, are they structural points, I can't easily see how they are built, I think it's very common to see inlaid points into ebony and mistake them for Deep "v" structural points. - I can really appreciate the cues that have the points cut in the...

-- -- Here is an example of what I'm talking about, there are several ways to assemble the cue to get the similar effect( deep "v" / knifed -in / full splice ) -hopefully somebody else can give the written definitions of these different construction methods- The problem is that there is no...

- -For example here is a cue from a very prominant maker that is just inlays, I see this all the time, I could find hundreds of this type of construction.

That Darren Hill is a nice looking cue. classic, having the dark points inlaid into the curly maple makes it easy to see how sharp the points are and it doesn't allow much room for error. nice

-Grumpy, I know exactly what I'm looking at, I've been doing this many years- I have over 80 cues in my collection, valued by many to be worth well over 7 figures. -I'm not new to this. -The big name masters do build what the customer wants, but they also have alot of influence over their...

- - Why would they not be doing "structural points"(good phrase) anymore, I believe it adds integrity and strength to the cue, and if done right- adds to the playing ability of the cue. - not worried about the wait or checkbook- I just want GREAT cues. not just art.:)

I have a version of that snakewood Samsasra, the first veneer is a lighter wood (maple or holly ?) but because it is a lighter less dense wood, the points at the apex are not as crisp or sharp as I would want, also the apex of the points don't all line up very well. I bought it because I liked...

- -I would fully expect to have to wait a long time, I just want a cue that is more involved than the standard -easy 4 point cue, that is what is usually made - because it is easier, faster and cheaper. :) I'm willing to pay for their additional efforts.

- -I have seen a couple in here, some better than others, But If they can all make them, then why don't the big name "masters" make them? I cant figure this out? I feel like if I'm going to drop 10k+ then I should be able to get a cue that comes from one of the "elite". -I would like to get one...

- -I did the search, I found one post by Camcues it showed, I think one 8point cue, but I can hardly see the cue. also you it has a ebony forearm- you can see my earlier post about my hesitancy in buying cues with dark forearms.

- -I very much like that, and I can appreciate how much effort went into that cue. -2 quick questions- is the birdseye forearm cored and was the entire butt built from a single piece of rock maple with the forearm and butt sleeved over the rock maple?

- -Are those inlaid points or are they (deep "v"/ knifed / spliced- call it whatever) -I am always curious when the forearm is ebony or a dark wood? - If they are are deep "v" and they are solid ivory- I'm impressed, controlling ivory so that is does not move is a very difficult thing to do.

- - I think you mis understood what I was trying to convey. :confused: What I am refering to , is when you have a ebony forearm. If you use a CNC and just cut pockets for inlaid points, The actual inlay can be cut with a razor sharp point, but the pocket that it fits into can be cut oversized...

- -nice 6pointers

- I see alot of 6pt and 4pt cues but no 8 point cues- does he do the 8 point cues?

- The Crisp cue does not have the points overlap, so how deep are the cuts that hold the points. The Carmelli has a bunch of the veneers glued to the square before it was glued to the cue-I like the added complexity that comes with the overlapping points( making the veneers end equally). But the...

This cue is 8 rosewood overlapping points with IVORY RECUTS!- no lie and rosewood on top of the ivory, I saw him put huge squares of ivory into the pockets - only to cut most of it out so that the last rosewood point would go on top.:eek:

- That is exactly why I'm trying to find somebody that builds those true 8point cues, I believe they are more rare than anybody truly knows. thanks for the photo:thumbup: