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    Turning Stone - rip off

    I didn't see in the definition the part about standing up for what's right and against what's wrong... Maybe Mike is just spreading fake news lol
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    I know many people around my speed or worse that play in this event all the time. I'm also friends with many top players from all over who ask, because I live somewhat close. Some of them don't care about the policy. Others do. Some have backed out (for very good reasons). Yes, I cannot win. My...
  3. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    Any business worth it's weight in dog turds would refund that ticket or offer a credit for the future. Period.
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    lol Jesus you're amazing They had an empty seat for that flight. They could have refunded me and resold the seat or given me a credit and resold the seat. That's why they could have lost money. I called them to see if there was something they could do, and there was. Because they're a good...
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    Yes, I've put a deposit on both an apt (when I rented) and a house. When I quit renting to buy a house, the landlord gave me back the month and a half security deposit from 5 years prior. So... no idea what you're talking about. And the deposit or "down payment" I put on my house is just that...
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    Exactly. You can be transparent all you want about being shady, it's still shady. Pool players just don't seem to get that because it seems it's all they know.
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    False. If anything, I cost them money. But you're not going to get that.
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    I work on television and deal with contracts all the time. I've very familiar with how business works and how contracts work. I also know that sometimes you may not like the terms of a deal but you need to do the deal anyway, for different reasons. You also clearly didn't read what I've posted...
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    I wonder how many don't say something because they want to continue playing in the tournaments (need points). Maybe he's kinda got them by the balls?
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    The flight from Buffalo to Austin was purchased at a different time and I still could have flown there the next morning, it just didn't work timing wise for me. So instead, I paid for a different flight straight to Austin from DC. So, it wasn't them not fulfilling the contract. They could have...
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    It's not hidden from the players who sign up, though probably not generally known to the average pool fan or viewer of his tournament stream. I'm sure more people know about it now than before. It is however shady. You don't have to agree.. I don't care. Morals differ from person to person. I...
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    I fly Delta all the time. A few weeks ago I needed to travel from Albany to Buffalo. There were no direct flights so I had to route through DC... and my connecting flight in DC to Buffalo got cancelled. So, I had to stay in DC for the night. I had already booked a flight from Buffalo to Austin...
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    Do u always no what u signed?
  14. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    Hi, I'm Andrew. Nice to meet you.
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    Being transparent about shady business ethics doesn't make them more ethical. And reselling the spot you've already sold and keeping the money is a dirty way of doing business. You can tattoo it on your forehead, and put up a million signs, it's still a bad business practice that should be known...
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    And I'm sure Mike will give any stranger every private detail over the phone... obviously.
  17. cleary

    Turning Stone - rip off

    Because you're probably equally shady. That's fine, it's a common thing around here.
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    And let's just say, you're a pro player who does exactly as you say. In January, they sign up early for the Labor Day tournament. In February, you find out your wife is pregnant and the baby is due around Labor Day... you just wasted $200 that could have bought diapers with because some asshat...
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    The agreement between the two parties isn't the issue, it's the business practice that happens when one of the parties says "I can't make it" and the the other party resells that spot. That's the shady part. In your example of the cue... if I don't like the cue, I still get to keep it. It...
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    Turning Stone - rip off

    This is beyond idiotic. All of it. It's almost impressive actually.
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