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Celtic, my friend, you came too late. I died already. (whispering: add that 30K for Efren in the 2009, from the WCOP, and Ralf 15K. and don't take away the San Miguels, as Ralf is having most of his Euro Tours there also, he just didn't win a single one, during early 2003 and late 2008) (I'm...

Ehem, weeeellll, grrhmmhhh... :mad: :( :frown: :confused: :sorry: :o: Ok. :rolleyes: :wink: :boring2:

Vette, what I have tried to do, is to look this from all the sides. Not only from my subjective and stubborn side. I have tried to give weigh to tourneys, according to the Top Pros opinions, which I'm quite well aware. In the last post I even took the humane part into consideration. ;)

By the way, Vette, why are you missing Efren from those poll updates? I've included Efren in my posts since the beginning, as he's clearly an option. Later, when all the facts came to the table, maybe even the best one. But hey, it's getting dark in here, (been already about 9hrs), I have an...

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Sean, Did you ever respond anything rational to the facts I stated about the POTD? Just messages like; "You're obviously wrong, and touting for your friend Mika blindly". You mis-interpreted me as being emotional in your first post, and I took it gently and was very diplomatic to you. When...

So I was the one who got personal first? So I was the one who got emotional first? So I was the one who didn't get the spirit of others message? Which one of us is the pot and which one the kettle?

If you forget your feelings (which most likely are based partly for you being present in DCC), and count once again, you'll see Ralf is the least consistent of those three. Only if you compare their individual consistency, then Ralf beats Efren, but Mika beats Ralf. If you compare their...

I agree that it would be easier to see if the Majors would be well determined, but when they are not, then the prize money, the size of the field, and the official prestigiousness (sp?) should be counted. (Actually, WPA has it's system nowadays, and I have included that in my view point - but...

One word: Majors

Ok, at least your trying to be objective, than just trolling. *Respect* for that. If you could still state, that why would you give it still to Ralf instead of Efren, if he's way below, and why wouldn't you somehow proggressively (sp?) give more and more weigh, the higher "the bar" is raised...

Sean, The more I'm trying to find "The Spirit" from the posts of yours, the more I can see your ignorance. Or is that already lying? You state what you state above, and in truth, I have looked everything from the facts, and found out that Efren is more and more there for the POTD. In almost...

How old are you Mister? You're putting this kind of messages, without even reading what other one has stated. And others should find "your spirit" from your texts.

I edited now it from my original post, wrote 7 times etc.. so hopefully you can understand it also and see clearly who has won and how many times, whose doubling who and etc..

Corvette, now I got this right. I'm not listing any own weighted formula points. That 'p', for example Mika 7p, meant pieces, not points. Sorry for my bad english, but yeah, those are exact amounts of times when won, nothing to do with my own formulas or ways of thinking.

Yeah, and: Archer 24 SVB 14 I'm starting to wish that you're only trying to provoke me, laughing at your computer cos you don't really care of being wrong, but just don't want to admit it so you can troll. Once more; so your argument was that Ralf should be number 1, infront of Efren and...

Old enough to base my opinions on facts, and old enough to understand, that if someone shows me I'm wrong - through facts - I'll accept that.

Corvette, I counted the wins and high finishes of DCC and other which had 10K-39,999K and of course also the bigger ones. How can you assume, that 5K tourneys then counts more than the bigger ones? Are you seriously saying that someone who has won more small tournaments, but loses constantly...

Sean, I'm starting to get disappointed at you. I didn't call anyone "stupid" or anything like that. Thanks Jarno for trying to make somethings clear, but certainly, I only meant that people are not well informed (=uninformed), and they are basing their votes and the statements for their...

I just answered that to Roy, and I must add, that neither is Mika's or Efren's all wins/accomplishments listed there (sure more than Ralfs, but those not listed are small wins anyway) One of the funny things is, that you're not even including Efren in your statements. Now you say that I'm only...