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    Do you ever get the feeling that the Fargo Rate of a player just does not seem right?

    Yeah, my pool hall is full of guys that have Fargo ratings 80 to 120 points lower than me (from their limited number of 8 and 9 ball tournaments and maybe a few sessions in a league) that would DESTROY me in one pocket. I understand that Fargo now takes one pocket games into the data, but...
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    Do you ever get the feeling that the Fargo Rate of a player just does not seem right?

    The question is how does Fargo get used in BCA leagues. Generally you are playing a singles match as a race to 5. Handicapped as such: 0-36 point difference, race to 5 35-62 point difference, 5 to 4 63-108, 6 to 4 109-131, 6-3 132-151, 7 to 3 152 point difference and up, 8 to 3 There is one...
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    Do you ever get the feeling that the Fargo Rate of a player just does not seem right?

    BCA nine ball uses Fargo for handicapping. And it is important for Pro players to have a Fargo (even if handicaps are not used in pro tournaments) because pro players intermix with all of us amateurs in a lot of regional tournaments and add meaningful data to the ecosystem that creates...
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    Is it a stroke if you whiff the cue ball?

    Yeah, so it seems. No contact, no shot, no foul... but some embarrassment.
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    Is it a stroke if you whiff the cue ball?

    OK, I am looking for actual rules (If you have an opinion just state it as such). A player is lining up a jump shot, masse, or is "tree topped" over an interfering ball. He clearly attempts his stroke and completely misses the cue ball. No ball is contacted at all. The player admits they...
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    Do you ever get the feeling that the Fargo Rate of a player just does not seem right?

    The data does show that Fargo holds up well when people from one area (a state) travel to another area to play. There is less jurisdictional bias than we think. Players from all over the country do as expected (no statistically significant difference) when they all convene in Las Vegas for big...
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    I watched a live stream of an 800 Fargo rate player, competing in a $20 weekly tournament, recently.

    I'm trying to figure out why people that aren't involved are trying to alter a tournament that had 51 happy players come out on a Wednesday night. The things you are suggesting are on other Wednesday nights. There's a rotation.
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    CONTACT INFO TO TALK TO HUMAN AT FARGO RATE

    Well, now my curiosity is piqued. Are the questions and answers anything that we all would benefit from hearing/learning, or is it private?
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    I watched a live stream of an 800 Fargo rate player, competing in a $20 weekly tournament, recently.

    It's $20 on a Wednesday night. It isn't the most serious tournament on the planet. And the $20 gets about 90 minutes of warm-up time before the tournament even starts, if players show up and take advantage of it. And the guy giving up the six-out is a professional-level player against a 450.
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    I watched a live stream of an 800 Fargo rate player, competing in a $20 weekly tournament, recently.

    Sorry, yeah, could have explained that. First, they have to do race to 2 to get through 51 players on a weeknight, double elimination. Ball weight is the weaker player getting to win on the 9 ball, but also the 8. Or the 9, 8 and 7, etc. Julio was definitely playing some games that he...
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    Is it better to "handicap" entry fees, then just play the darn tournament straight up?

    Maybe this is a "thing" everywhere, but I am seeing it more often... The premise: Instead of handicapping the tournament, play it like a true professional tournament with no games on the wire. Incentivize participation for lower Fargo players by charging them less, on a sliding scale. They...
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    I watched a live stream of an 800 Fargo rate player, competing in a $20 weekly tournament, recently.

    Replying to myself to add that Julio Burgos (747) won the $20 Wednesday night tourney last night. The format was short race (race to 2) 9-ball, with ball weight. 51 players showed up (always in part because there is a huge break-and-run, 10-ball pot/raffle). Fargo Rating of the 8 players that...
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    I watched a live stream of an 800 Fargo rate player, competing in a $20 weekly tournament, recently.

    I'll ask about the software and post here when I find out. I do believe that the leveling of total games played is manual. The software definitely shows how many chips you start with by showing how many are left (red) and how many you have lost (black). It also shows total games played and...
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    I watched a live stream of an 800 Fargo rate player, competing in a $20 weekly tournament, recently.

    This is now off topic, but... We do it the opposite. If you lose, you stay on the table and break the next game. Weaker players are out the door pretty quickly because they lose, and lose, and lose... Yes, if you win you go back to the top of the list and do have to wait. You socialize. You...
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    I watched a live stream of an 800 Fargo rate player, competing in a $20 weekly tournament, recently.

    To that point, Julio Burgos (747) plays in some $20 Wednesday night tournaments at Beyond Billiards in South Florida. A typical format is the "chip tournament" in which players round-robin against each other, one game at a time, until you have lost your assigned number of games. Strong players...
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    650 Fargo Quits Six Figure Job to Pursue Pro Pool Dream...or YouTube Fame?

    It is absurd. He isn't going to be an 800. But, if chasing something gets some clicks and let's the rest of us see what he can do, maybe we'll learn something. Frankly, I'll be impressed if he cracks 700. In fact, I'd set the over/under wagering at 710.5 in the next two years, and I would...
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    Always call a ball in 10b...

    First, great, thoughtful post. Second, I completely agree and I think that it is a basic game-theory perspective that is supported by your list of four possible outcomes. Third, I did watch the video (the shot) a few times and asked myself, "If she did call a ball, is that the ball and pocket...
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    650 Fargo Quits Six Figure Job to Pursue Pro Pool Dream...or YouTube Fame?

    I saw this a few days ago and commented. I wish him luck and all... but 650s are not uncommon, and very few make into the ranks of guys making a living as professional pool players unless their time at 650 was "just passing through" on their way up. Regardless, I wanted to address the idea of...
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    More hilarity from Strickland and Sigel in Accustats series...

    He has ear covers, I want a sleep mask so I don't have to watch Sigel helicopter out of every other shot, like he's fly fishing. I find it so painful to watch players do that.
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    What’s going on in Poland?

    One thing that I believe was mentioned in this thread is that there are no Americans playing in Austria this week. I did look and confirmed that I don't see any American flags. Then I wondered, how high would you have to finish to guarantee that it is a profitable trip, and is the risk worth...
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