So, how much did he lose ?
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When we played in '04 Pat Fleming said we got up to 800 viewers on the stream the first night.
I know there's some kvetching about all this right now but people still love a good car wreck and the more carnage the better. So to those wringing their hands, I say: funny -- you're right here in the middle of it.
Lou Figueroa
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yeah, I was pretty unnoticeable here during those first 7 years when I was trying to muster the courage to interact with everyone. :grin-square:
regarding rematch, it's not looking good, is it?
best,
brian kc
It's all good, Brian.
John thinks going off like a Roman Candle is good PR.
Lou Figueroa
Pssst, hey did you guys hear jb went off for 100,000,00?
...thinkin' about taking the jar out into the alleyway and blowing it up with a cherry bomb.
Lou Figueroa
As opposed to 35K?
We better keep bumping this thread, it is going to take a while to get $66,000 worth of marketing from this unfortunate event.
Scrunge19
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Gotta justify it somehow so he can write it off as a “business” expense on his tax return.
A bit back, when we was woofin' to play for $20,000, I had three different guys immediately contact me and say they'd stake me for the full amount.
I also had guys in STL do the same. They didn't want your dough leaving town
Lou Figueroa
Then, if true which is doubtful, that would be the definition of a nit. As i said you're a good story teller.
What's the lesson? All i learned from you is how i definitely do not want to be.
The amount determines the problem? Denial? I just posted a freaking hour long video that laid out the underlying issues.
And it wasn't 66k. I don't even know where that number came from. It was about 35k and was much more about the ego than the money. I have an insecurity problem not a gambling problem. Playing pool for money is not the problem. How it is dinner is the problem. I have zero regrets for any match i have played where the match was arranged and rules agreed on and money posted. I have a ton of regret for random action where i let my ego determine the betting and went in unprepared to play my best. I hope that the difference is clear.
As for having to have a certain rating to play for money, no that's never going to happen as people are competitive long before they are capable. Competition is what shapes players. The smart and steady ones collect the most money. The streaky ones are the most entertaining, the nervous ones donate most of the time. The thrill of victory is a powerful motivation and the agony of defeat is commonly shared.
The amount of money is not the problem. A person with a having problem will blow all of their money regardless of how much they have. The person who is a thrill seeker will chase that thrill no matter what. But it's not just as simple as saying that losing x$ indicates a gambling problem. For many people what i lost means nothing. Seriously, to them it's as inconsequential as losing $10. For others it's more than a year's wages. So focusing on the amount is not the best way to look at it.
I have (had?) an ego issue. That has led to some bad decision making and some good decision making. However i prefer to be in more control now and not have the bad decision making happen and have the good decision making be for reasons other than to satisfy my ego.
What kind of cue do you shoot with JB?
Actually all promotion is an expense but beyond that gambling losses can be claimed anyway if i chose to.
But i will put the loss in the expenses as i have always done because i do promote my business with entertaining love streams featuring me competing for money. Still a loss i would rather have not taken but i am certainly not going be taxed on that money. That's just legal, normal and smart business.
oh, it's true about the backers -- and lots and lots and lots of guys, at all different skill levels up to the most elite of pros get staked, for many different reasons.
As to the lesson not learned: that you should not be gambling at pool for a lot of dough. Case in point: getting your nose wide open and going off like SpaceX for $35,000 (or was it closer to $66,000?).
Lou Figueroa
Well then i guess Lou needs some heart or a brain because leaving money on the table isn't really smart is it? I mean if you spend years talking about that one match.... And refuse to match up again then what's the motivation?
Funny that not a single one of his claimed backers ever publicly started their intentions. I guess if they exist they have their reasons but it would have made things different if they had publicly voiced their commitment. As if stands we only have the "story".
Now you never get to know because that opportunity is gone. The time to take those backers and take John off is over. So lack of heart or lack of intelligence? Doesn't matter because the guy with backers refused to play. He make up any story he wants and can't be proven wrong. The question is are you entertained? If so then you got your money's worth.
Thanks for clearing that up. Wish you well.
Better to leave some money on the table than your ass.
I think most guys here can easily see why people who have that kind of money would want to back me in a match against you. That you can't see it just proves how much of a sucker you are.
Lou Figueroa
It's a 5 piece cue. It was a two piece cue but John converted it after the match. :wink: